insta kill blamo

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Azartrus [legacy]
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18 March 2006 00:00:00
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Player Kill

about time to fix this dont you think

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    Banhe [legacy]
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    20 March 2006 18:51:14

    Yeah.

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    Vermond [legacy]
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    20 March 2006 16:02:01

    uh oh, I like how it suddenly becomes good as soon as you mention how it will help you.

    Anyways, why argue about something that is going to be fixed anyways.

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    Banhe [legacy]
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    20 March 2006 15:15:28

    Pk Ers of course.

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    Banhe [legacy]
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    20 March 2006 15:15:18

    Double ambush its ridiculous, but well, it will give the Riots a good way to pk.

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    Banhe [legacy]
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    20 March 2006 15:14:28

    But all BHs can ambush, no matter the eq, and a double ambush with whip and ss, its not the same as a strike and a bs with mori or Black.

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    Vermond [legacy]
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    20 March 2006 15:10:18

    And whip and fang are easier to do for FRs than ERs..

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    Polk [legacy]
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    20 March 2006 02:16:52

    The Black Sword quest is easier to do for ERs than FRs.

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    Jabba [legacy]
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    19 March 2006 11:25:03

    Well, most servants are guilded, and evil guilds can't get Morimacil.

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    Dalkar [legacy]
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    19 March 2006 10:36:52

    Note 60 Draugluin (Sat Mar 18 2006) IMPORTANT: 'ambush'

    Dear Ardans,

    Ambush has been temporarily disabled until a permanent

    fix can be created, reviewed, and installed by the Maker

    team, to prevent anymore abuse.

    Thank you for your patience.

    D

    Owned!

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    Dalkar [legacy]
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    19 March 2006 10:17:44

    I don't see why it's that hard for ER's to quest mori, blacker, or srs! SRS is like 5 rooms from ER lands, and mori is within MT level 1... where to be honest I see more ERs than FRs.

    But really, whatever.

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    Trevor [legacy]
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    19 March 2006 10:03:02

    A double ambush is exactly the same as an SRS plus a backstab with The Black Sword or Morimacil ( probably more weapons out there too ), And yes, ERs can strike and backstab too. But. An sFR cant go quest 5 SRS' to bring with him when he and his sFR assassin buddy is gonna go killing spree. ( And when I said cant i meant, it's possible but freaking hard to do ) Same with Morimacil and The Black Sword, hard for ERs and servants to quest..

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    Winnetou [legacy]
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    19 March 2006 09:58:12

    To the ERS: Newbie whiners. DIE!!!!

    To the FRS: Yes, it's unbalanced. Abborre, for example, took me 147hp with a maul stab yesterday. And I was geared with numenorean warshield, mask,sturdy,black plate gauntlets. I had healing and that saved me. So listen to Duncan:)

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    Banhe [legacy]
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    19 March 2006 06:03:56

    but Hallam, at least its 2 different specials, not 2 ambush, why a rider dont stamp and BH ambush?

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    Hallam [legacy]
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    19 March 2006 03:55:33

    Multiple people suffered +90hp damage off the first hit of backstabs from Dream with a mumak tusk, so strike + backstab definitely has the ability to kill someone just as fast.

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    Kalmah [legacy]
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    19 March 2006 02:55:51

    Ive seen srs with mori do 225 actually

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    Fernando [legacy]
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    19 March 2006 02:32:02

    FORMID, SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!

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    Chewie [legacy]
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    19 March 2006 01:52:38

    SRS + stab with MORI doesnt do as much dmg as double ambush with mauls.

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    Zicex [legacy]
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    19 March 2006 01:05:32

    and backstab!

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    Saurus [legacy]
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    19 March 2006 01:00:31

    dont forget that ERs can strike too

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    Kalmah [legacy]
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    19 March 2006 00:16:03

    meh, like someone already said, srs + double wielded mori backstab can easily have the same effects to an ER

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    Qfm [legacy]
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    19 March 2006 00:11:48

    Also, the problems associated with servants right now don't make your death a near-certainty. Many of the people Winnetou has killed have been low when he nailed them. These weren't perfectly shaped maxed chars dying nearly instantaneously.

    Apples and oranges.

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    Pallasch [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 23:16:29

    Eh, FR's have whined about ambush for months now.

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    Saurus [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 23:14:43

    it was bug that they could multiple ambush!! read what Draug said!

    or read news

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    Kalmah [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 23:03:51

    FRs complain and right away the ainur remove ambush, leaving bountyhunters crippled for the time being. ERs complain, over a month passes and ainur still don't finish dev 35. If anyone whines about ainur siding with evils now, go die :)

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    Jabba [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 23:01:54

    What bug?

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    Saurus [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 22:56:52

    so Abborre and Khulzder abused bug and its ok? great! :(

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    Barazbund [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 22:42:25

    While everyone is focused on the huge damage inflicted by two players...(and I agree, this is unbalanced) I would just like to point out that the two ers in this log found a nice way 2 man someone with minimal chance of their escaping.

    The same could be done with 5, but this took a little bit more intelligence. So on that score at least, they deserve a moderate amount of credit.

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    Baklen [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 21:38:35

    erms, carry healing, use shorter alias, use travelto

    Double ambushed nullified

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    Rekthorne [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 21:30:00

    Baklen, its a little hard to adapt to something like that, its not like everyone can camouflage or something. Just very annoying.

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    Rekthorne [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 21:28:39

    Indeed Polk.

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    Baklen [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 21:27:08

    uhhh your fault, this was pretty bad on your part. Adapt, deal with it, we've all been there.

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    Polk [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 20:53:08

    If he was dumb enough to stand in the room and get hit by both lightning and fb, it's his own fault, Gaul.

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    Draugluin [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 20:53:01

    FYI:

    Ambush (in more ways than 1) was not working as intended, allowing for (frankly) even more damage than shown here in less time.

    Please have patience while we work to fix these issues.

    Thanks!

    D

    PS: Please see in-game news posts for more information, and further updates.

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    Cobrad [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 20:45:46

    Both sides have advantages and disadvantages.

    If we all whine on every thing an other side has/can where we'll we end up?

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    Gaul [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 20:42:53

    It might not be the same, but we can't train resist magic either. I remember seeing a legionmate drop in a shorter time than that to FR lightning by one wizard and a fireball from the other.

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    Tingol [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 20:36:56

    Double 'ambush' is unbalanced. The only weapon that does so much damage is SRS (if target didn't train RM). Notice that you can't train anti-ambush. We are really F>.... Grrrrr. Ambush might count as special attack. So you can't be ambushed by more than one person at time.

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    Cobrad [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 20:33:35

    --FR's can serve easily??? wtf is that supposed to mean and how is it an advantage to me--

    Not everything has to give -you- an advantage right?

    And my point:

    No multiple backstabs, but multiple ambushes can. Imbalance?

    Yes lawsys between FRs but not between ERs or SFRs. Imbalance?

    I hear no FR protesting FRs serving and killing just for the free kills, but when an FR is being hacked by two ambushes, protesters are suddenly everywhere.

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    Jasumin [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 20:28:03

    Well...as I said on the MUD earlier, I probably would have died anyways...I mean it was two-on-one and I would have wound up in the middle of nowhere....

    but i might have had a chance. I just take issue of sorts with losing 200 hp in one round when FR players actually had their abilities changed so that they couldn't do that much damage in a short time.

    It's just kind of silly.

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    Azartrus [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 20:11:40

    FR's can serve easily??? wtf is that supposed to mean and how is it an advantage to me

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    Cobrad [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 20:10:04

    I think Winnetou's quote fits perfectly here:

    You guys are just being handed your asses on a plate. Stop whining:)

    Both sides have (dis)advantages. FRs can serve and kill easily. ER's can ambush and kill easily.

    *waits for comments* :)

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    Azartrus [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 20:00:24

    nod i should probably have aliased to nre and maybe there to edoras

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    Dalkar [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 20:00:20

    Duncan, that little doubleambush would have killed almost any other profession if they were maxed, with the same rolls. Good god.

    You want to stop instakills? Then remove multiple ambushes.

    You want to keep multiple ambushes? Bring back multiple stabs, and multiples specials per round.

    I don't understand why they'd do something halfassed like that.

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    Jasumin [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 19:59:20

    Nah. I died shortly before this, in a considerably shorter alias, because I too was double ambushed from 230 hp to 29 hp.

    You don't live long after that.

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    Duncan [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 19:49:38

    *nods at Rekthorne*

    I know the feeling of being absent for a long time too.

    Azartrus, good armour was never able to save people from being killed in this game (except may be if you had a HBS - still, may be). The key to survival is flexibility and healing (and that's true for most of the games I've played - strategies, etc).

    I'd strongly advise you not to use long aliases:) Even having only one alias Carchost-Narchost (instead of a sequence of aliases) is unadvisable.

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    Saurus [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 19:33:52

    so you cant be double backstabed and can be double ambushed? i thought you can't be double ambushed, oh well :(

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    Rekthorne [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 19:24:36

    Thats your biggest prob azart... gotta use that travelto(quickly too) feature, brotha.

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    Azartrus [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 19:20:59

    I was in a do command. im a warrior with maxxed blocking, with decent armour. insane damage that comes that fast is too quick for me to use healing

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    Rekthorne [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 19:15:01

    I thought that was fixed? A full fucking load of armour and you still get dropped 200 damn hitpoints. Ri-fucking-diculous.

    Yeah Duncan, I got dual ambushed from MT to Edoras and survived thanks to a VoV I had... Only to newb it up and get dropped by Athin 5 seconds later because I just came back from inactivity and didn't know which rooms were safe.

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    Duncan [legacy]
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    18 March 2006 19:13:28

    Ever heard about using healing? I think you'd have lived even with the lag of the flask.