about time to fix this dont you think
Yeah.
uh oh, I like how it suddenly becomes good as soon as you mention how it will help you.
Anyways, why argue about something that is going to be fixed anyways.
Pk Ers of course.
Double ambush its ridiculous, but well, it will give the Riots a good way to pk.
But all BHs can ambush, no matter the eq, and a double ambush with whip and ss, its not the same as a strike and a bs with mori or Black.
And whip and fang are easier to do for FRs than ERs..
The Black Sword quest is easier to do for ERs than FRs.
Well, most servants are guilded, and evil guilds can't get Morimacil.
Note 60 Draugluin (Sat Mar 18 2006) IMPORTANT: 'ambush'
Dear Ardans,
Ambush has been temporarily disabled until a permanent
fix can be created, reviewed, and installed by the Maker
team, to prevent anymore abuse.
Thank you for your patience.
D
Owned!
I don't see why it's that hard for ER's to quest mori, blacker, or srs! SRS is like 5 rooms from ER lands, and mori is within MT level 1... where to be honest I see more ERs than FRs.
But really, whatever.
A double ambush is exactly the same as an SRS plus a backstab with The Black Sword or Morimacil ( probably more weapons out there too ), And yes, ERs can strike and backstab too. But. An sFR cant go quest 5 SRS' to bring with him when he and his sFR assassin buddy is gonna go killing spree. ( And when I said cant i meant, it's possible but freaking hard to do ) Same with Morimacil and The Black Sword, hard for ERs and servants to quest..
To the ERS: Newbie whiners. DIE!!!!
To the FRS: Yes, it's unbalanced. Abborre, for example, took me 147hp with a maul stab yesterday. And I was geared with numenorean warshield, mask,sturdy,black plate gauntlets. I had healing and that saved me. So listen to Duncan:)
but Hallam, at least its 2 different specials, not 2 ambush, why a rider dont stamp and BH ambush?
Multiple people suffered +90hp damage off the first hit of backstabs from Dream with a mumak tusk, so strike + backstab definitely has the ability to kill someone just as fast.
Ive seen srs with mori do 225 actually
FORMID, SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!
SRS + stab with MORI doesnt do as much dmg as double ambush with mauls.
and backstab!
dont forget that ERs can strike too
meh, like someone already said, srs + double wielded mori backstab can easily have the same effects to an ER
Also, the problems associated with servants right now don't make your death a near-certainty. Many of the people Winnetou has killed have been low when he nailed them. These weren't perfectly shaped maxed chars dying nearly instantaneously.
Apples and oranges.
Eh, FR's have whined about ambush for months now.
it was bug that they could multiple ambush!! read what Draug said!
or read news
FRs complain and right away the ainur remove ambush, leaving bountyhunters crippled for the time being. ERs complain, over a month passes and ainur still don't finish dev 35. If anyone whines about ainur siding with evils now, go die :)
What bug?
so Abborre and Khulzder abused bug and its ok? great! :(
While everyone is focused on the huge damage inflicted by two players...(and I agree, this is unbalanced) I would just like to point out that the two ers in this log found a nice way 2 man someone with minimal chance of their escaping.
The same could be done with 5, but this took a little bit more intelligence. So on that score at least, they deserve a moderate amount of credit.
erms, carry healing, use shorter alias, use travelto
Double ambushed nullified
Baklen, its a little hard to adapt to something like that, its not like everyone can camouflage or something. Just very annoying.
Indeed Polk.
uhhh your fault, this was pretty bad on your part. Adapt, deal with it, we've all been there.
If he was dumb enough to stand in the room and get hit by both lightning and fb, it's his own fault, Gaul.
FYI:
Ambush (in more ways than 1) was not working as intended, allowing for (frankly) even more damage than shown here in less time.
Please have patience while we work to fix these issues.
Thanks!
D
PS: Please see in-game news posts for more information, and further updates.
Both sides have advantages and disadvantages.
If we all whine on every thing an other side has/can where we'll we end up?
It might not be the same, but we can't train resist magic either. I remember seeing a legionmate drop in a shorter time than that to FR lightning by one wizard and a fireball from the other.
Double 'ambush' is unbalanced. The only weapon that does so much damage is SRS (if target didn't train RM). Notice that you can't train anti-ambush. We are really F>.... Grrrrr. Ambush might count as special attack. So you can't be ambushed by more than one person at time.
--FR's can serve easily??? wtf is that supposed to mean and how is it an advantage to me--
Not everything has to give -you- an advantage right?
And my point:
No multiple backstabs, but multiple ambushes can. Imbalance?
Yes lawsys between FRs but not between ERs or SFRs. Imbalance?
I hear no FR protesting FRs serving and killing just for the free kills, but when an FR is being hacked by two ambushes, protesters are suddenly everywhere.
Well...as I said on the MUD earlier, I probably would have died anyways...I mean it was two-on-one and I would have wound up in the middle of nowhere....
but i might have had a chance. I just take issue of sorts with losing 200 hp in one round when FR players actually had their abilities changed so that they couldn't do that much damage in a short time.
It's just kind of silly.
FR's can serve easily??? wtf is that supposed to mean and how is it an advantage to me
I think Winnetou's quote fits perfectly here:
You guys are just being handed your asses on a plate. Stop whining:)
Both sides have (dis)advantages. FRs can serve and kill easily. ER's can ambush and kill easily.
*waits for comments* :)
nod i should probably have aliased to nre and maybe there to edoras
Duncan, that little doubleambush would have killed almost any other profession if they were maxed, with the same rolls. Good god.
You want to stop instakills? Then remove multiple ambushes.
You want to keep multiple ambushes? Bring back multiple stabs, and multiples specials per round.
I don't understand why they'd do something halfassed like that.
Nah. I died shortly before this, in a considerably shorter alias, because I too was double ambushed from 230 hp to 29 hp.
You don't live long after that.
*nods at Rekthorne*
I know the feeling of being absent for a long time too.
Azartrus, good armour was never able to save people from being killed in this game (except may be if you had a HBS - still, may be). The key to survival is flexibility and healing (and that's true for most of the games I've played - strategies, etc).
I'd strongly advise you not to use long aliases:) Even having only one alias Carchost-Narchost (instead of a sequence of aliases) is unadvisable.
so you cant be double backstabed and can be double ambushed? i thought you can't be double ambushed, oh well :(
Thats your biggest prob azart... gotta use that travelto(quickly too) feature, brotha.
I was in a do command. im a warrior with maxxed blocking, with decent armour. insane damage that comes that fast is too quick for me to use healing
I thought that was fixed? A full fucking load of armour and you still get dropped 200 damn hitpoints. Ri-fucking-diculous.
Yeah Duncan, I got dual ambushed from MT to Edoras and survived thanks to a VoV I had... Only to newb it up and get dropped by Athin 5 seconds later because I just came back from inactivity and didn't know which rooms were safe.
Ever heard about using healing? I think you'd have lived even with the lag of the flask.