Fun times during an ER raid.
Np Dorf, not uncommon considering I haven't played the game much in the last few years, just enough to keep up with the changes a little bit.
You know me.
I should use that as a defense more often, as it's so readily believed. ;)
Just pointing to the fact that the only reason I know Trempk is because of the log page, and the only reason I remember him here is because of those little painting things he was making for a while. No offense, Trempk, we just haven't met!
He's drunk, let him be
[new] Date: 03. May, 2006, 20:40:37 By: Dorf
It's always better when your side is backed up by one of those paintings, though!
What the hell are you talking about, you silly dwarf?!
It's always better when your side is backed up by one of those paintings, though!
But only because its usually the right side. :P
I see both sides of issues, I just give my side a lot more weight.
Vermond please don't start commenting on my arguments when the majority of yours are completely inane and unfounded. I know who Trempk is, I just care less about it now so I closed the issue. Thank you for your valuable comment!
You don't know who Trempk is?! Trempk is infamous! Trempk is a player who is both articulate and skilled, but hampered by rage, bitterness, and an inability to see two sides of an issue; a brave, talented crusader against anything that even slightly resembles a deviation from his dogma! He's one of my favorite players. His comments always make me happy with their blissful ignorance and short-sightedness.
If you don't know who he is, why'd you say he stole your surname? ;P
Let's make a random accusation and when that person actually asks you to point out and prove it becomes 'end of issue'
Trempk, either I don't know who you are, or you don't know who I am. In any case, the issue has passed, and my opinion of you remains the same.
And you only lose 3hp.
You don't get to follow the player through Osgiliath unlike the rope, that way only the leader of the party is damaged and he doesn't automatically die if he runs out of ep, unlike the bridge, also the hp is lost at half the rate of the bridge... Of course unlike the bridge, you don't get to keep hunting the target through it unless you are triggered to hunt him.
So what is this surname that I stole from you fygn?
Not really.
Evil can do almost the same in Osgiliath
So just because they are a bunch of idiots that don't know how to abuse an unbalanced feature to kill a full party hunting them without much trouble, there's no bug?
Yes Vermond, but most morally aligned players opt to either die cluelessly, or run through Caras Galadhon without engaging their enemies in MORTAL COMBAT.
I am easily the best player on this MUD.
Also, Arawn's comment made me giggle.
Can't a moral just keep walking through it while being hunted by someone evil to pull some sort of mt glasses that doesn't even hurt him?
The bridge is fine how it is if you aren't a fucking moron.
I really, really hate that bridge. In the name of balance, I demand the Ainur code an evil equivalent! Wait that's not how they work, they should just nerf this one. In the name of balance!
Oh I'll bring it! Don't think I won't bring it!:P
So what is this surname that I stole from you fyg?
> So, Winnetou, what exactly makes you _that_ great, then?
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Not caring about shallow people like you.
Arawn I'll show you up anytime bro, just bring it on the MUD and leave your god damn innroom so I can fulfill your contract :P
And I thought I was fucking egomaniaced:)
So, Winnetou, what exactly makes you _that_ great, then?
It probably doesn't hurt his image that he doesn't spend too much time trash-talking people here, either...
>He is just a player, one of the best.
Just because he killed you once doesn't mean he's _that_ good.
> I don't really understand why people take so much offense from Winnetou's comments.
Because they are braindead.
Yeah, he's quite good, though what makes him stand out is what Arawn said.
He is just a player, one of the best. Definately someone worth killing.
Vildoran's just.. cool.
Vildoran has had years to perfect his technique its a shame I left right when he was making the character. Wish we could of rolled together:(
You know what, there is one good playerkiller on this game that I like. (I mean really good, don't get offended guys:P). Vildoran. Know why? Because he's not a raving lunatic. The rest of you are out of your fucking minds.
I've learned one thing from this mud. Whatever you do, or did, means jack shit. Use your sword to talk shit. Oh wait. Some of you obviously can't. Didn't I call it way back when I said its just another alt with another trig that will be gone in a month?
Yah I think I did.
Hadn't you stopped commenting 3 comments ago?
Vermond, I dont see whats the problem when you are faded, especially without the new change that unfades you. Back then, when you fade you can go anywhere you wish. All that you do when you see you are wrong is to dig out old logs over and over again. What is that, the 5th time you are referring to this log or am I wrong? Think of something new for a change.
All I did was posting a link to show your hypocrisy and you had to reply with a long comment claiming that I'm useless - Quitting to survive is same whether you are in combat, stuck in BD, lost with patrols or have just broken.
Vermond, quitting is when you quit in combat. Once you break, you can do whatever you want. You can quit, you can sleep, you can eat, you can fart. Well, you can do the last even in the process of breaking:)
Damn, you love getting yourself into long argues:)
It is a log you quit in, moron. Too bad the event you quit in BD isn't on the log page.
Feel the mud?! I'll give it a ago...
It's smooth and cold..and kinda tingly. But now I've got fingerprints on my screen:(
And what is the point?
Its not easy to play on telnet, you know?
http://logs.dyndns.dk/viewer.php/5290 - Same log.
Vermond, you can dig out multiple logs where I die or fuck up somewhere.
It still has nothing to do with the topic of conversation. There has not been a single guy I want dead that I have not killed. Maybe except Abborre, but he stopped playing before I could get in touch with the ER changes.
You spend HUGE amount of time on this mud and you are still nowhere. To play this game with style and class, you need to feel it. Ofcourse you guys could never know what I am talking about.
Its the same like the role player who protects his area... its the same like you who just jerk around. Everyone has a style and this is what makes it so colourful and nice.
I will stop commenting cause we can whine at each other 100 more comments like we always do, which is pointless. You are not worth it.
Vermond makes a strong point.
http://logs.dyndns.dk/viewer.php/5286
Formid:) There is nothing bad to die. This was one perfect lockup. I have never denied that. If you go after people, you expect to be backhunted, locked. Its just that people like you hunt off or use mappers to get away from these situations once their backstab fails to kill the victim. Thats wimpish.
Fyng, you've got a lot to learn about assassination.
Not sure who you're talking about. Only two of my characters have surnames. One of them me and a good friend of mine made at least 3 years ago. And the other I've had for at least 6 years. Some of us who have posted here remember the time when winnetou was just another newb.
Anyways Trempk feel free to make another annoying pointless character and try and steal my surname again, cause, you know, that wasn't kissing my ass in anyway...
No, its stating the truth people ignore thinking they are really the authority on this or that because of bias, and at the same time showing my side on the argument.
Arawn - I am an assassin, and I don't complain, I kill people :D
By pointing out where you've gone wrong I'm in no way kissing a friend's ass.
Pallasch, or any FRA member talking about someone else being arrogant? Now that's a good laugh :P If you had adapted you would be well aware you're NOT going to survive crossing that bridge - Feel free to criticize the PvP system, I agree, its nonsense atm. But don't hide the mistake you made with an excuse! Its exactly what you're calling Winnetou on.
And Pallasch I'm sorry I missed the glorious reign of your playerkilling, I'm sure I would have fallen many times. [Feel free to post the only log you have of me dying, whilst a newbie, for the THIRD time :D Oh better yet, post the failed attempt in Tenzek's, or the attempt where Rohkilin fails to lock in STS and you can't kill me with Black Sword when I'm lost in GON region with 80 HP.]
Now that's an example of being an arrogant asshole, trying to put people down. There is a difference here. Just try and get some mutual respect, and if that's not possible, bring it out on the MUD, where some respect might be earned. Anyone who goes out and tries to have some fun and take some risks is a good chap in my book, because, in the end, this is a game. Play it :D
'honestly, of the people commenting on the thread he has the most history backing him up to make comments concerning playerkill.' Thats kissing your friends ass.
Pallasch, don't aggravate Daywalker, he's beaten this game he's the best. With the best equipment in the game he can take anyone down, just look at this log, hes awesome it is a perfect example of how to use the best equipment in the game
http://logs.dyndns.dk/viewer.php/8646
1) Winnetou was not being constructive. Constructive criticism would be to say, 'You did this and that wrong, try this next time and maybe you won't die'.
2) I hate brown nosers.
3) I have adapted, but that in no way means I'm not allowed to criticize this weakass PvP system currently implemented on the mud.
4) I didn't 'mess up' in this log, because I accomplished what I was going for, and because of some silly fucking bridge that magically can drain my hp/ep each time I cross, I died.
5) I have pk'ed just as much as Winnetou has, I just don't post all my logs, because I don't kill for glory and fame. I point out his 'exploits' because he seems to think he's this awesome player that never makes mistakes, when really he has to abuse loopholes and have his client make gold for him and share characters to achieve what he wants.
6) Winnetou, don't act like every PK you've ever done went exactly as you planned. Things can happen you don't expect and you can end up dying. Hell, you've done more silly mistakes that lead to your death than I have while PK'ing. Again - you aren't the god of PK you think you are, take a needle and deflate that ego.
Besides, Log page is my place, not yours :) Its the place where people show what they can do.
Ideally, the log page would be a forbidden place for ainur and their sidekicks like yourself. Logs where ainur are shown in bad light wouldnt get removed.
People would speak free without the fear of someone doing something to their chars. This way it would be a true page of the players and not 'sucky, but the only one'.
Unfortunately, I dont have time for playing nowadays. I mean in general. Anytime I come, I come for a reason.
And how exactly are you doing anything by just commenting here without a character?
Vermond, pardon me, but there are just few guys on this mud that ever do anything. And whiners like you need to sit next to Rathmar and just speak bullshit.
Atleast he admits that he is useless and is here just to chat and annoy people. Thats the differance - he has some pride in him.
Fyng, saying you don't intend to offend someone (though I failed to find such a comment from Winnetou) then bashing him in the rest of your comment doesn't make it any better and if Winnetou's comments are constructive criticism, then anything can be classified so.
No offense but stop kissing Winnetou's ass.
See? I made it clear that I don't intend to offend you, and it is constructive criticism too!
It is annoying because he and his brother feel the need to put down every single thing anyone other than themselves do due to their arrogance and as Pallasch was pointing out, they aren't any better themselve
That fucking bridge is worse than the shards in MT or the thorn bush. I'm surprised I haven't seen dozens of logs of immoral aligns getting screwed there. At least with the shards or the bush, you need healing to pull it off.
And Fyng, we need to complain. It's called being an assassin. You're just not an assassin if you don't bitch and whine.
I don't really understand why people take so much offense from Winnetou's comments. He said himself he wasn't trying to offend Pallasch... but then Pal of course responds with the bitter comment because he can't take constructive criticism. Proceeding to attack Winnie's latest exploits on the MUD, honestly, of the people commenting on the thread he has the most history backing him up to make comments concerning playerkill.
The truth is Pallasch, this was a decent kill. But you killed yourself, and were bunged up a bunch because of the new changes. Instead of complaining about them, and making excuses, adapt like everyone else who participates in the PK field these days. And stop reminiscing about the good old days, and how back then it actually took skill to accomplish things... your main argument of how the new generation of PKers are only good because of all the changes that make it EASIER to kill people, why did you mess up so much in this log?
Winnetou do you know what vainglorious means?
<3 Shah
Since when was I a good player? What defines good? Being able to stalk someone for 3 hours and then killing them? Being able to organize a coordinated attack on Arda from the evil lands? It's true saying that I've played this game for 6 somewhat years doesn't define me as 'good,' but then again you have no idea who I am or what I've accomplished. What I said has nothing to do whether I'm good or not - it's more or less if you make a shitty log and I can attack the little self-esteem you have for thinking you have testicles.
:EGD
Pallasch, you killed yourself. Lame. Thenardi, since when were you a good player? I know your name just because I have spotted it in the past. Newbies can't judge good players.
And I was actually there camoed with you when you attacked them, it took me a while in all that spam to figure out I can't bs and start headbutting her instead. Was fun.
Actually, I killed Hellflame and Tiamat died to patrols or smth. Not that it matters much :P
winnetou, navedi se da ti dam
You don't have to spend much time planning thinks like this
Ahhh... reading this log brings nostalgia for playing an ER. Awesome kills Pallasch. Winnie is an idiot for bitching about organization. I think it's a lot more exciting seeing someone react to things as they go and then playing them out instead of spending hours planning.
Yeah, sorry about that Rek.
Dunno, Harrow, I'm not feeling the love here at all. :(
<3
My skills are maxed.
> Skills that are lacking, huh?
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Yes, skills that are lacking. Assassin skills.
Skills that are lacking, huh? Care to explain?
Maybe I should just serve so I can get people to quest me FR eq and log on, tell off, and kill the first unsuspecting ER I come across. I guess that's where the skill truly lies.
Or maybe I should just cheat a whole lot, share characters with my brother, and do numerous MP violations so that I get nuked.
Possibly even bot Dell's Farm and the orcs around Dale? I bet that'd make me a better player.
Oh and Lae, while I do appreciate that players like Nasira perpetuate the battle between FRs and ERs, I was just pointing out that Nasira and her party members have a high rate of dying while in her parties.
No Jabba, it's stabbing me while I am piss drunk IRL and afk and in Mordor, hah hah.
And THAT would be a fun log. :)
What's skill then?
'Oh shit, I'm owning my target, let's drop my tusk and wield a wooden sword so it's a more even fight.'
Caber, you can read my logs and see how things are done. At least I have some organised skills. Skills that obviously lack in this log. Essentials. I am not trying to offend Pallasch, he just needs to learn to be better.
I wouldn't quite call it a death sentence, and it's a war so what's the point in people just sitting on their respective sides and doing nothing? Evils taking bp's forces FR's to work together instead of bitching at each other constantly over quest claims and other pointless stuff. If you want fluffy bunny rabbits and everyone being nice go buy Spyro and blow bubbles at each other
Evils can makes 15k an hour if you get it done right as a necromancer :D
good to hear, this is what I was fighting for. Evils should go make 10k/hour in far harad and to hide there.
I find it interesting that people even party with Nasira any more, its almost like a death sentence with your only reward being able to annoy FRs for like 15 minutes before they retake the BPs.
Great log, very fun read :)
Nice log, there was a lot of action going on here...Different parties, solo killers, etc. looked like an event or something going on :P.
I agree that if somebody runs into a room to start looting their own corpse they more than deserve to be doubletapped...Especially if there's no lawsys for it ;) I wouldn't expect to be spared by ERs if I went back to my corpse to get stuff before they could. Especially if I was somebody as infamous as Nasira.
Heh Nasira died 3 times in one week. When this happend before?
Always good to see Nasira die. x 2
As for the changes -
NO COMMENT!!!!!!!!!
soon you wont be able to attack anything anywhere.
Winnetou's just bitter as always. Call someone a newbie, Winne! Or tell us how great a pkiller you are!
It was a good log, stop being so Tuaregish.
It's hard not to double-tap someone when they walk in and start looting their own corpse. It's like they're saying 'You killed me, but you'll never get my gear!' To which I would reply, 'OH REALLY? *BACKSTAB BACKSTAB BACKSTAB*'
Lame execution, huh? Just how would you propose to have done it any differently? There's only so much you can do against a full party with so little rooms to work in.
lame execution, unique luckl
Like you wouldn't have done the same thing if they walked back into the room you were in.
Well executed, nice kill, P.
Would be interesting to see the code for backstab and check if the multipliers (x4 and x5) still applies and if it's worked out after boosts or independently of them. but hey then someone will work out how to do a 150hp stab and it'll all get nerfed anyway :(
The log was good but you went for the double tap which i guess is alright if you don't mind people doing it to you.
Yah, guess it was rechanged. Bsing with vials used to nerf the bs.
Haven't seen a Morgoth used in a while. Sexy.
Meh - Good work but lame excuses throughout. Just get the job done next time :D
yeah, god damn good log! pallasch has big balls, but bah, i still think he is a jerk! :P
Normally I don't care for party logs like this, but this was a pretty good read.
'I AM NOT GOLLUM, THE ROPE DOES NOT BURN ME!' *chuckles*
Weak ass stab shit was in vgc , if not you would of lived:(
Nice solo on the earlier part. I had to get ep from camoing constantly in Caras. Otherwise I would of been right there with you.
Nice kill.