Everybody is talking about keeping count on
the war between Rims and Durms. But I don't
think it's possible to agree on how to count.

It was a little confusing looking through logs
but here are a few I found wich are from the
supossedly Rims-Durm war and before everybody
suddanly joined Rimsilval

log 1055 By: Delgaur . Another war Victim!
Where Gazza, Rolf, Soltan, Ruiniel and Delgaur(hunting) kill Deadlok
(3 guilds)

log 1030 By: Foxxx . Foxxx's are sly ...
Where Delgaur, Woden, Mads, Undertow and Gazza try to kill Foxxx
(3 guilds)

log 1006 By: Raqtor . Nobody likes me *sniff*
Where Delgaur, Woden and Mads try to kill Raqtor
(3 guilds)

log 992 By: Anton 
Where Anton, Woden, Ruiniel and Gazza kill Havok
(3 guilds)

log 991 By: Anton . Deadlok dies. What else is new?
Where Ruiniel, Gazza, Anton and Woden kills Deadlok
(3 guilds)

log 944 By: Leto . Deadlok dies .. Beornings enter the war
Where Brahm, Zoso and Leto kill Deadlok
(3 guilds (No rimmies?) enter the war?)

log 945 By: Leto . Toto dies
Where Soltan, Devinius and Leto comes to kill Toto
(2 guilds)

log 919 By: Leto . Toto dies. .. Fun in Rivendell.
Where Ruiniel, Gazza, Devinius, Leto and a figure kill toto
(? guilds (2 and a figure)) 

log 911 By: Leto . Therigion dies.
Where Soltan, Ruiniel, Gazza and Leto kill therigion
(2 guilds)

log 848 By: Leto . Orlandu dies
Where Gazza, Leto, Anton, Ruiniel and Soltan kill Orlandu
(2 guilds)

I don't wanna try to count guilds involved here.. 
But it looks like about 5 guilds to me
Anyway it's really hard to find Rimsilval kills
that are not done with the help of other guilds..
Well I mean before everybody joined Rimsilval of
cause ;)

So Do theese kills count as Rims kills in the
Rims vs Durms war? . And if so .. Do Durms kills
on VC's, Beornings, BKD's and Glorglass count too?

Does posting a log titled "Beornings enter the war"
not mean that its not just a Durm-Rims war? And if
some members of a guild several times help Rims in
the war and does not get kicked from his guild ..
does that not mean that the guild accepts that they
are taking part of this war?

Keeping score does not truely reflect how the war
is going. One guild may simply have more newbie
members or one guild may have more bold members
that take alot of chances.
And next time you wanna help someone in a war, 
think to yourself. "Are all my guild members also
prepared and willing to be at war?"




A side note pinned to the log reads:
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Yeah there are ppl that don't like the Durmanhoth
and that might be understandable. After all they are
the ones that your enemy hires to kill you.

If you type help guild_durmanhoth you will see that
they are cracy blood-thirsty men craving GOLD and POWER.
They will kill for any amount of money, because it
is the rush they are after.
So they will kill you if you have something that
can bring them more POWER or if someone is willing
to give them something for your head.

They are a part of this game that you love to play
and they are a tool for ppl who can't kill to get
their target.

(Sorry for my bad typing)