Read this log. It's not long. I had to kill a newbie. He annoyed me and my friends, he deserved it. Now, I'd like to say something - we now have evade - 'to help the newbies break'. This newbie had at least 3 regular huntbreaks around him, 1 of them is very very hard to trigger (even impossible for less than..i forgot how many people) and he also had like 2 more huntbreaks which required preparation, plus any new HBs there may be. I think evade helps people who want to abuse the fact that they are hated - to make gold from the attempts of the people whose lives they ruined. Tell me - how does evade help newbies?????? Enough talking, thanx for reading, here's the log. Party say from Nihil:  wb tell nihil getting a find You tell Nihil: getting a find =HP:230 EP:162= =LOT= pp hes at rhos You say to your party: hes at rhos =HP:230 EP:161= =LOT= ^ (OOC) Dorf: Robot women can be troublesome, I suppose. pp trigger up and stay here You say to your party: trigger up and stay here =HP:230 EP:161= =LOT= i Gold: 67 Encumbrance: lightly encumbered You are carrying the following on your person: A mixed potion (in hands). *A simple leather baldric containing a gleaming runed blade(worn). *A stamped staying-permit. *An elven shield (worn). *Black plate gauntlets (worn). *A strange glowing helm (worn). *A set of climbing gear (worn). *A canvas backpack (worn). *A set of gold runes. *Rank insignia. *The 8th Two Towers EVENT! badge. =HP:230 EP:161= =LOT= ^ (OOC) Tevildo: Not now, Paraiko's Mom, I'm busy! Jesus Christ, I'll  take care of you later. Party say from Nihil:  up ^ (OOC) Tevildo: Miscomm. Dornath enters. Nihil attacks Dornath. Suddenly, Nihil stabs Dornath from behind! Nihil drives metal into Dornath's flesh with vicious animosity! Party say from Nihil: hunting Dornath Nihil hacks through vitals, mangling Dornath beyond recognition! Dornath misses Nihil. pp hunt You say to your party: hunt =HP:230 EP:160= =LOT= zz Do: starting commands. =HP:230 EP:160= =LOT= Only assassins may hunt. =HP:230 EP:160= =LOT= You put your lips to the potion and gulp it all down. You get the feeling you could give a troll a good beating. =HP:230 EP:180= =LOT= What? =HP:230 EP:180= =LOT= You switch your grip to two hands. You whip a gleaming runed bladefrom a simple leather baldric like an avenging demon drawing pure DEATH!!! You wield a gleaming runed blade. =HP:230 EP:180= =LOT= You already wield it! =HP:230 EP:180= =LOT= You don't have a spear stored. =HP:230 EP:180= =LOT= That victim is still suffering from a recent backstab. =HP:230 EP:180= =LOT= You attack Dornath. =HP:230 EP:180= =LOT= Dornath is in average shape.  Dornath AVERAGE!  Dornath AVERAGE!  Dornath AVERAGE!  Dornath AVERAGE!  Dornath AVERAGE!  Dornath AVERAGE! =HP:230 EP:180= =LOT= Do: Commands completed. =HP:230 EP:180= =LOT= Nihil slams the end into Dornath's ribs. You bash Dornath with the hilt of the sword. Dornath tears you apart with gruesome efficiency. kk Do: starting commands. =HP:218 EP:180= =LOT= You quickly thrust your forehead into the bridge of Dornath's nose. .......................HEADBUTT =HP:218 EP:145= =LOT= You attack Dornath. =HP:218 EP:145= =LOT= Do: Commands completed. =HP:218 EP:145= =LOT= shape all Dornath doesn't look so great.  Dornath  DLSG!  Dornath  DLSG!  Dornath  DLSG!  Dornath  DLSG!  Dornath  DLSG!  Dornath  DLSG!  Dornath  DLSG! =HP:218 EP:145= =LOT= Your eyes ache from the strain of maintaining your enhanced vision. Nihil misses Dornath. You stab Dornath, tearing muscle from the bone. Dornath misses you. ^ (OOC) Paraiko: my mom's on another comm? kk Do: starting commands. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= Your neck still hurts from the last headbutt. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= You attack Dornath. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= Do: Commands completed. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= kk Dornath leaves south. Nihil leaves south. You follow your leader............................... SOUTH Lothlórien(n, w, e and s)  Nihil of Many Faces the dunedain Master Assassin (Demonic)  Dornath the dwarf Knight (Immoral) Do: starting commands. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= Your neck still hurts from the last headbutt. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= You attack Dornath. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= Do: Commands completed. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= Party say from Nihil: hunting Dornath Nihil bashes Dornath with the pole. You miss Dornath. Dornath misses Nihil. kk Do: starting commands. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= Your neck still hurts from the last headbutt. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= You attack Dornath. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= Do: Commands completed. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= kk Dornath leaves south. Nihil leaves south. You follow your leader............................... SOUTH Lothlórien(n, w, e and s) [sw]  Nihil of Many Faces the dunedain Master Assassin (Demonic)  Dornath the dwarf Knight (Immoral) Do: starting commands. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= Your neck still hurts from the last headbutt. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= You attack Dornath. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= Do: Commands completed. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= kk Do: starting commands. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= Your neck still hurts from the last headbutt. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= You attack Dornath. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= Do: Commands completed. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= kk Nihil misses Dornath. You slice into Dornath leaving a long red line of blood. Dornath misses you. Do: starting commands. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= Your neck still hurts from the last headbutt. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= You attack Dornath. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= Do: Commands completed. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= kk Do: starting commands. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= Your neck still hurts from the last headbutt. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= You attack Dornath. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= Do: Commands completed. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= kk Dornath leaves east. Nihil leaves east. You follow your leader............................... EAST Caras Galadhon(n, w, e and s)  Nihil of Many Faces the dunedain Master Assassin (Demonic)  Dornath the dwarf Knight (Immoral) Do: starting commands. =HP:218 EP:144= =LOT= You pull a muscle in your neck trying to headbutt Dornath. =HP:218 EP:124= =LOT= You attack Dornath. =HP:218 EP:124= =LOT= Do: Commands completed. =HP:218 EP:124= =LOT= kk Nihil misses Dornath. You bash Dornath with the hilt of the sword. Dornath misses you. Do: starting commands. =HP:218 EP:123= =LOT= Your neck still hurts too much to attempt to headbutt again. =HP:218 EP:123= =LOT= You attack Dornath. =HP:218 EP:123= =LOT= Do: Commands completed. =HP:218 EP:123= =LOT= kk Do: starting commands. =HP:218 EP:123= =LOT= Your neck still hurts too much to attempt to headbutt again. =HP:218 EP:123= =LOT= You attack Dornath. =HP:218 EP:123= =LOT= Do: Commands completed. =HP:218 EP:123= =LOT= kk Dornath leaves east. Nihil leaves east. You follow your leader............................... EAST Lothlórien(n, w, e and s) [se]  Nihil of Many Faces the dunedain Master Assassin (Demonic)  Dornath the dwarf Knight (Immoral) Do: starting commands. =HP:218 EP:123= =LOT= Disregarding your own personal safety, you smash your head into Dornath. ............... HEADBUTT =HP:218 EP:88= =LOT= You decide to put Dornath out of his misery. Dornath falls to the ground. =HP:218 EP:88= =LOT= Do: Commands completed. =HP:218 EP:88= =LOT= kk Do: starting commands. =HP:218 EP:88= =LOT= Your neck still hurts from the last headbutt. =HP:218 EP:88= =LOT= You decide to put Dornath out of his misery. =HP:218 EP:88= =LOT= Do: Commands completed. =HP:218 EP:88= =LOT= Nihil hacks Dornath. You stab Dornath, tearing muscle from the bone. You killed Dornath. Dornath has died. Dornath has a questioning look on its face. Suddenly you have a massive headache. The ghost of Dornath drifts west. ^legend dornath ^ (OOC) Tlaloc: legend dornath =HP:218 EP:82= =LOT= glance Lothlórien(n, w, e and s) [se]  Corpse of Dornath  Nihil of Many Faces the dunedain Master Assassin (Demonic) =HP:218 EP:82= =LOT= get all from corpse into pack some gold coins : Gold may only be pocketed. a dwarven hauberk : Too bulky. a crystal : Ok. a keyring containing 2 keys : Ok. a Dol Amroth pack : Too bulky. a dark steel longsword : Too bulky. a crystal : Ok. =HP:218 EP:82= =LOT= put sword into baldric You switch your grip to one hand. You remove a gleaming runed blade. Ok. =HP:218 EP:82= =LOT= get all from corpse some gold coins : Ok. a dwarven hauberk : Too heavy. a Dol Amroth pack : Ok. a dark steel longsword : Ok. You wield a dark steel longsword. =HP:218 EP:81= =LOT= You put 807 gold in your pockets glance Lothlórien(n, w, e and s) [se]  Corpse of Dornath  Nihil of Many Faces the dunedain Master Assassin (Demonic) PS: Really, don't claimjump people.