I guess the only way to prove it, is to test it ourselves.
Pounder Tiresias Skyman Micrus and some other FRs and I were talkin about archers. Tiresias said his archer got owned by an assassin. I was curious to try it out. Coz as far as i knew, Archers deal massive damage. The rounds below simulates the battle. Tiresias said he was owned by an assassin with a cleaver while he had DCLB. Assassin: maxed, 60 tactics 55 blocking Archer: maxed, no secondaries ROUND 1 : We couldnt find a DCLB but Micrus had Stormy. The first round is Assass with MELS vs Archer with Stormy. Watch the damage on the first two rounds. You say in Westron: from 5 |GON|HP:230 EP:230> i Gold: 134 Encumbrance: unencumbered You are carrying the following on your person: *A magnificent engraved longsword (wielded). *An old leather baldric (worn). *An engraved mithril ring, inlaid with an eyestone (worn). *A stamped staying-permit. *Jubal's gold circlet (worn). *A medal clip holding a medal. *The Tale of Beren and Lúthien. *A set of rose quartz runes. *An ornate and huge, albeit empty briar pipe. *A metal necklace (worn). *The 8th Two Towers EVENT! badge. *A set of mithril-lined bracers (worn). *Jubal's Blood-Covered War horn. *A spellbook. *Rank insignia. |GON|HP:230 EP:230> glance A cozy tent(n, nw, se, w, e and s) A big razor-sharp meat cleaver A bloodstained cloak A dwarven mining pack A sharp carving knife A simple sheepskin sheath containing a Morimacil A crystal A dwarven hauberk A pair of mail pants A dwarven war shield A keg of Dwarven ale Kirik Mythil the dunedain Green Beast of Gondor Micrus the dunedain Marksman of Gondor Jowy Atreides the dunedain Gangster (Heroic) [disconnected] A keg of Mead of Rohan A wooden ballot box The board of Gondor's Vengeance |GON|HP:230 EP:230> poke kirik You poke Kirik. |GON|HP:230 EP:230> Kirik says in Westron: 5 Kirik says in Westron: 3 Kirik blushes and says: Oops! Kirik says in Westron: i cant count Kirik falls down laughing. Kirik says in Westron: 5 Kirik says in Westron: 4 Kirik says in Westron: 3 Kirik says in Westron: 2 Kirik says in Westron: 1 k micrus You attack Micrus. |GON|HP:230 EP:230> You bash Micrus with the pommel of the sword. Micrus shoots forth a lightning-fast arrow, hitting you. Thwack! An arrow lodges itself deeply in your body. You will have to yank it out. Micrus nocks a handcrafted arrow. Micrus draws back on a bow. Micrus does a pushkick straight on your chest, giving him time to shoot another arrow at you. Micrus launches a handcrafted arrow, striking your chest. Micrus nocks a handcrafted arrow. Micrus draws back on a bow. You miss Micrus. Micrus shoots forth a lightning-fast arrow at you... The handcrafted arrow pierces your chest, making it lifeless! Thwack! An arrow lodges itself deeply in your body. You will have to yank it out. Micrus misses you with a handcrafted arrow. Micrus nocks a handcrafted arrow. headbutt You pull a muscle in your neck trying to headbutt Micrus. |GON|HP:164 EP:210> You miss Micrus. Micrus draws back on a bow. headbutt You notice Micrus sizing you up. ----->>> Micrus is SHAPING you. Your neck still hurts too much to attempt to headbutt again. |GON|HP:164 EP:210> Kirik cheers enthusiastically for Micrus. You miss Micrus. Micrus misses you with a handcrafted arrow. Micrus nocks a handcrafted arrow. charge You charge at Micrus and plunge your blade in! |GON|HP:164 EP:170> You are too busy to make an attack! headbutt You are too busy to make an attack! |GON|HP:164 EP:170> You are too busy to make an attack! You notice Micrus sizing you up. ----->>> Micrus is SHAPING you. You miss Micrus. headbutt You pull a muscle in your neck trying to headbutt Micrus. |GON|HP:164 EP:150> You notice Micrus sizing you up. ----->>> Micrus is SHAPING you. headbutt Your neck still hurts too much to attempt to headbutt again. |GON|HP:164 EP:150> You miss Micrus. The arrows throb in your body. Micrus draws back on a bow. Micrus shoots forth a lightning-fast arrow at you... The handcrafted arrow pierces your chest, making it lifeless! Thwack! An arrow lodges itself deeply in your body. You will have to yank it out. glance shape A cozy tent(n, nw, se, w, e and s) A big razor-sharp meat cleaver A bloodstained cloak A dwarven mining pack A sharp carving knife A simple sheepskin sheath containing a Morimacil A crystal A dwarven hauberk A pair of mail pants A dwarven war shield A keg of Dwarven ale Kirik Mythil the dunedain Green Beast of Gondor Micrus the dunedain Marksman of Gondor Jowy Atreides the dunedain Gangster (Heroic) [disconnected] A keg of Mead of Rohan A wooden ballot box The board of Gondor's Vengeance |GON|HP:127 EP:150> headbutt You wound Micrus with the sharp blade. Micrus nocks a handcrafted arrow. Micrus draws back on a bow. Micrus is in average shape. Micrus <<< AVE AVE AVE AVE AVE >>> Micrus |GON|HP:127 EP:150> You pull a muscle in your neck trying to headbutt Micrus. |GON|HP:127 EP:130> Micrus throws a nice kick at you, and you flinch. Micrus misses you with a handcrafted arrow. You wound Micrus with the sharp blade. Micrus nocks a handcrafted arrow. Micrus draws back on a bow. headbutt You pull a muscle in your neck trying to headbutt Micrus. |GON|HP:126 EP:110> You miss Micrus. Micrus shoots forth a lightning-fast arrow at you... The handcrafted arrow pierces your chest, making it lifeless! Micrus sears your flesh with a handcrafted arrow. Micrus nocks a handcrafted arrow. You notice Micrus sizing you up. ----->>> Micrus is SHAPING you. charge You miss Micrus. Micrus draws back on a bow. Micrus's handcrafted arrow devastates you with thunderous force. That hurts! You panic, overcome by agonizing pain! Thwack! An arrow lodges itself deeply in your body. You will have to yank it out. You charge at Micrus and plunge your blade in! |GON|HP:47 EP:70> You notice Micrus sizing you up. ----->>> Micrus is SHAPING you. glance shape You are too busy to make an attack! A cozy tent(n, nw, se, w, e and s) A big razor-sharp meat cleaver A bloodstained cloak A dwarven mining pack A sharp carving knife A simple sheepskin sheath containing a Morimacil A crystal A dwarven hauberk A pair of mail pants A dwarven war shield A keg of Dwarven ale Kirik Mythil the dunedain Green Beast of Gondor Micrus the dunedain Marksman of Gondor Jowy Atreides the dunedain Gangster (Heroic) [disconnected] A keg of Mead of Rohan A wooden ballot box The board of Gondor's Vengeance |GON|HP:47 EP:70> hp Micrus doesn't look so great. Micrus <<< DLSG DSLG DSLG DSLG >>> Micrus |GON|HP:47 EP:70> hp: 47/230 end: 70/230 |GON|HP:47 EP:70> You are too busy to make an attack! You wound Micrus with the sharp blade. You notice Micrus sizing you up. ----->>> Micrus is SHAPING you. headbutt You pull a muscle in your neck trying to headbutt Micrus. |GON|HP:47 EP:50> You DECIMATE Micrus with a ferocious attack! The arrows throb in your body. headbutt You notice Micrus sizing you up. ----->>> Micrus is SHAPING you. Your neck still hurts too much to attempt to headbutt again. |GON|HP:47 EP:50> You bash Micrus with the pommel of the sword. Micrus nocks a handcrafted arrow. You miss Micrus. Micrus draws back on a bow. Micrus throws a nice kick at you, and you flinch. Micrus misses you with a handcrafted arrow. charge You aren't ready to charge anyone yet. |GON|HP:44 EP:50> You mangle Micrus with extraordinary skill. Micrus nocks a handcrafted arrow. You notice Micrus sizing you up. ----->>> Micrus is SHAPING you. charge You miss Micrus. Micrus draws back on a bow. You charge at Micrus and plunge your blade in! |GON|HP:44 EP:10> You are too busy to make an attack! glance shape A cozy tent(n, nw, se, w, e and s) A big razor-sharp meat cleaver A bloodstained cloak A dwarven mining pack A sharp carving knife A simple sheepskin sheath containing a Morimacil A crystal A dwarven hauberk A pair of mail pants A dwarven war shield A keg of Dwarven ale Kirik Mythil the dunedain Green Beast of Gondor Micrus the dunedain Marksman of Gondor Jowy Atreides the dunedain Gangster (Heroic) [disconnected] A keg of Mead of Rohan A wooden ballot box The board of Gondor's Vengeance |GON|HP:44 EP:10> Micrus is near death. Micrus <<< ND ND Near DEATH ND ND >>> Micrus |GON|HP:44 EP:10> You are too busy to make an attack! k You attack Micrus. |GON|HP:44 EP:10> You notice Kirik sizing you up. ----->>> Kirik is SHAPING you. You miss Micrus. k You attack Micrus. |GON|HP:44 EP:10> You wound Micrus with the sharp blade. The arrows throb in your body. k Kirik winces just from the thought of it. You attack Micrus. |GON|HP:44 EP:10> k You mangle Micrus with extraordinary skill. Micrus falls to the ground. Feeling merciful towards your victim, you cease attacking, letting Micrus fall to the floor, unconscious. Micrus removes the storm longbow. Micrus drops a handcrafted arrow, the storm longbow and all his gold! Kill what? |GON|HP:44 EP:10> Kirik goes "Woo!". Kirik says in Westron: MELS WINS Micrus regains consciousness. Micrus gets the storm longbow. You hear the sound of muffled thunder somewhere outside. Micrus wields the storm longbow. The arrows throb in your body. Micrus nods. % ok assasssin mels > archer stormy % Jubal: ok assasssin mels > archer stormy |GON|HP:44 EP:7> Micrus says in Westron: lol glance A cozy tent(n, nw, se, w, e and s) Some gold coins A big razor-sharp meat cleaver A bloodstained cloak A dwarven mining pack A sharp carving knife A simple sheepskin sheath containing a Morimacil A crystal A dwarven hauberk A pair of mail pants A dwarven war shield A keg of Dwarven ale Kirik Mythil the dunedain Green Beast of Gondor Micrus the dunedain Marksman of Gondor Jowy Atreides the dunedain Gangster (Heroic) [disconnected] A keg of Mead of Rohan A wooden ballot box The board of Gondor's Vengeance |GON|HP:44 EP:7> Micrus says in Westron: well drink keg drink keg You see more than one keg. Using the first of the following: on the ground : a keg of Dwarven ale on the ground : a keg of Mead of Rohan You take a large draught of ale and wipe your mouth clean on your sleeve. |GON|HP:64 EP:27> Micrus says in Westron: you got lucky ROUND 2 : In this round we tested Cleaver agains Stormy ( tried to simulate Tiresias' situation) Stormy is > DCLB, but anyway... i Your headache clears up. Gold: 134 Encumbrance: lightly encumbered You are carrying the following on your person: *A big razor-sharp meat cleaver (wielded). *An old leather baldric (worn). *An engraved mithril ring, inlaid with an eyestone (worn). *A stamped staying-permit. *Jubal's gold circlet (worn). *A medal clip holding a medal. *The Tale of Beren and Lúthien. *A set of rose quartz runes. *An ornate and huge, albeit empty briar pipe. *A metal necklace (worn). *The 8th Two Towers EVENT! badge. *A set of mithril-lined bracers (worn). *Jubal's Blood-Covered War horn. *A spellbook. *Rank insignia. |GON|HP:230 EP:230> - Micrus says in Westron: attack me Jubal Naakhûrz the dwarf Hitman of the King HP: 230/230 END: 230/230 Exp: 4576075 Avg. Stats: 100 Strength: 100 Agility: 100 Charisma: 100 Constitution: 100 Coordination: 100 Intelligence: 100 Level 20 assassin, 41d 7h 14m 44s old. |GON|HP:230 EP:230> 'oh lol ;p You say in Westron: oh lol ;p |GON|HP:230 EP:230> f aim You start focusing on your aim skill. |GON|HP:230 EP:230> k micrus You attack Micrus. |GON|HP:230 EP:230> You almost debone Micrus like a dead chicken. Micrus sears your flesh with a handcrafted arrow. Micrus nocks a handcrafted arrow. headbutt You pull a muscle in your neck trying to headbutt Micrus. |GON|HP:221 EP:210> Micrus kicks you hard, causing you to stumble. Micrus draws back on a bow. Micrus misses you with a handcrafted arrow. You miss Micrus. Micrus nocks a handcrafted arrow. Micrus draws back on a bow. headbutt Tireless tells you: Ah, so you're winning... as an assassin... without using your combat move... against an archer... wielding stormy... who IS using his combat move You pull a muscle in your neck trying to headbutt Micrus. |GON|HP:217 EP:191> You slice Micrus like a cook slices an onion. Micrus shoots forth a lightning-fast arrow at you... The handcrafted arrow pierces your stomach, making it lifeless! Thwack! An arrow lodges itself deeply in your body. You will have to yank it out. Micrus shoots forth a lightning-fast arrow at you... The handcrafted arrow pierces your hand, making it lifeless! Thwack! An arrow lodges itself deeply in your body. You will have to yank it out. Micrus nocks a handcrafted arrow. You notice Micrus sizing you up. ----->>> Micrus is SHAPING you. You carve Micrus up like a pig. Micrus draws back on a bow. Micrus's handcrafted arrow devastates you with thunderous force. Your head seems to be paralyzed and lifeless. Thwack! An arrow lodges itself deeply in your body. You will have to yank it out. Micrus's handcrafted arrow devastates you with thunderous force. That hurts! You panic, overcome by agonizing pain! headbutt You notice Micrus sizing you up. ----->>> Micrus is SHAPING you. You grapple with Micrus, your cranium colliding with his face. |GON|HP:100 EP:156> You miss Micrus. Micrus nocks a handcrafted arrow. Micrus smirks in amusement. glance shape A cozy tent(n, nw, se, w, e and s) Micrus the dunedain Marksman of Gondor A crystal A magnificent engraved longsword A bloodstained cloak A dwarven mining pack A sharp carving knife A simple sheepskin sheath containing a Morimacil A dwarven hauberk A pair of mail pants A dwarven war shield A keg of Dwarven ale Kirik Mythil the dunedain Green Beast of Gondor A keg of Mead of Rohan A wooden ballot box The board of Gondor's Vengeance |GON|HP:100 EP:156> You miss Micrus. Micrus draws back on a bow. Micrus launches a handcrafted arrow, striking your arm. A sudden jolt of pain causes you to jerk in agony. Micrus nocks a handcrafted arrow. Micrus is in average shape. Micrus <<< AVE AVE AVE AVE AVE >>> Micrus |GON|HP:93 EP:156> 'dammit ;p You say in Westron: dammit ;p |GON|HP:93 EP:156> You carve Micrus up like a pig. Micrus draws back on a bow. Micrus shoots forth a lightning-fast arrow, hitting you. Thwack! An arrow lodges itself deeply in your body. You will have to yank it out. shape Micrus is in average shape. Micrus <<< AVE AVE AVE AVE AVE >>> Micrus |GON|HP:77 EP:156> You carve Micrus up like a pig. Micrus nocks a handcrafted arrow. Micrus draws back on a bow. You notice Micrus sizing you up. ----->>> Micrus is SHAPING you. headbutt You pull a muscle in your neck trying to headbutt Micrus. |GON|HP:77 EP:136> headbutt headbutt You miss Micrus. Micrus misses you with a handcrafted arrow. Micrus nocks a handcrafted arrow. Your neck still hurts too much to attempt to headbutt again. |GON|HP:77 EP:136> Your neck still hurts too much to attempt to headbutt again. |GON|HP:77 EP:136> Micrus throws a nice kick at you, and you flinch. Micrus draws back on a bow. Micrus's handcrafted arrow devastates you with thunderous force. That hurts! You panic, overcome by agonizing pain! headbutt You miss Micrus. The arrows throb in your body. Micrus nocks a handcrafted arrow. Micrus draws back on a bow. You pull a muscle in your neck trying to headbutt Micrus. |GON|HP:22 EP:116> headbutt headbutt You miss Micrus. Micrus sears your flesh with a handcrafted arrow. Micrus nocks a handcrafted arrow. You grapple with Micrus, your cranium colliding with his face. |GON|HP:13 EP:81> Your neck still hurts from the last headbutt. |GON|HP:13 EP:81> You notice Micrus sizing you up. ----->>> Micrus is SHAPING you. Tireless tells you: I'd say that makes it appear closer than it actually is chop You move in close to attack, but fail to connect due to poor timing. You cannot attack that person. |GON|HP:13 EP:81> You slice Micrus like a cook slices an onion. Micrus draws back on a bow. Micrus's handcrafted arrow devastates you with thunderous force. That hurts! You panic, overcome by agonizing pain! Thwack! An arrow lodges itself deeply in your body. You will have to yank it out. glance shape A cozy tent(n, nw, se, w, e and s) Micrus the dunedain Marksman of Gondor A crystal A magnificent engraved longsword A bloodstained cloak A dwarven mining pack A sharp carving knife A simple sheepskin sheath containing a Morimacil A dwarven hauberk A pair of mail pants A dwarven war shield A keg of Dwarven ale Kirik Mythil the dunedain Green Beast of Gondor A keg of Mead of Rohan A wooden ballot box The board of Gondor's Vengeance |GON|HP:-22 EP:81> You fall to the ground. Micrus shows mercy to you and only knocks you unconscious. You are no longer shielding anyone. You stop protecting. One of your lifeless hands loses its grip on your weapon. You remove a big razor-sharp meat cleaver. You drop a big razor-sharp meat cleaver! You are unconscious and can do nothing! |GON|HP:0 EP:81> You are still unconscious. Micrus has hp: 78/230 and end: 112/230 You are still unconscious. You are still unconscious. nod Micrus slings the storm longbow over his shoulder. You are unconscious and can do nothing! |GON|HP:0 EP:81> Wanted to have another round with dclb vs cleaver... But i needed to go.. Some other time prolly.