Let's all have a round of applause.
refresh my memory when did you ever kill me?
perrota youre were whinning when i solored youre ass using cutlass bugg! your no one 2talk about whinniong man !!! just becose im better then youre are dosent meen you cant whinne!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111
in the end off this lettre you see singed with two words in red perrota blood..
-PRINCE KLASBERTLI BLOd-HAMER THE OWNER AND BEST PLAYER EvER
I love when anything isn't in the FR's favor so they have to petition and bitch to the ainurs.... ' O he got backstabbed and trampled each taking 100 hp' boo hoo i don't see Exhalev crying about it and he is the one who got stabbed and trampled!!! Quit your bitching and man up.
He just wants to kill shit :p
Im confused, Volun just helped you wax someone 3 logs ago..........Then attacks you in this log? Or am I the only one that noticed that?
They could put in special rohirric horses with an equally powerful charge move :P
Even though I was just owned myself by a rider. Keep em. Maybe change up the multi-smash thing, but other than that, they rules.
I don't recall any of the free-races riding bigass mounts :/
The only thing that needs to be checked is being run over by more than one mount at a time...like you can't be double-ambushed, or backstabbed, etc.
Other than that, seems fine to me.
I just hope when FRs get the Rider prof (we are getting it right?) we can get mumaks or a mount with a similar powerful move.
Dark arrows KO the target less than 1/3 of the time, and they KO the target for only two rounds. Not enough time for a cast.
I was in a PK party on Ravathir the other day, had 2 dark 2 powdered multinocked on stormbow, kickback, 3/4 hit... he was not KOed and not poisoned.
Stormy still hurts with deflecting, add in some dark arrows which not only knock you uncon but as a result really screw up your alises and you've got something alot worse. Oh and add a wizard triggered to cast on the falls to the ground, sometimes works but i guess it depends on how quickly the player reacts.
I won't even go into the medallion when properly geared up.
In short, things can hurt. Nerfing everything that can deal a nice bit of damage just means a decent player with a large black cloak who's eaglesighted is nigh on unkillable.
I hate constantly training a skill to keep it up so that a single item won't insta kill me :/
Please Tireless, just drop it, you don't have to whine about balancing everything, some things should stay diffrent, And it might be better, but it isnt sure it is, it might have some setbacks, like hard getting mumak, or whatever. EVERYTHING dosnt have to be the same, it's fun when some stuff is abit diffrent.
Give me the ability to train a skill to decrease the effectiveness of trample and I'll say it's the same. For double multinock kickback, train deflecting to 60 and you'll take... 5 damage. Strike is utterly useless against 60rm. Headbutts never did that much damage, nor did feints. There is no ability without a skill to counteract it which can do that much damage instantly other than ambush and backstab, which are combat-starting skills.
Not to mention a terrable kickback double multinocked
*points at the Ithilcalad Log* he was taken down with a strike kickback with double multinock and a backstab from perfect....what's the difference?
You can do a 100hp strike with a 100hp stab :P Albeit most ppl block that with a quick rm train, but still.
Ok, I was not sufficiently informed with regards to how stamp worked. I still think the possibility of landing 100hp stamp right after a 100hp backstab shouldn't be there, but there's no good way to prevent it without making the profession worthless.
I spoke to Luthien about the buggy breaking, and she said that 'there was already a bit report on it'. Whoever has the active bit report, please notify us if they decide it's not a bug, so we can petition it.
Pretty certain it has a cooldown like backstab so mutliple riders can't all stomp/trample.
'All you have to do is get a stupid mount and you can land as much damage without variation as a maxed assassin with skill boosting items and black sword?'
It has variation and its alot harder to get that mount than it is for an assasin to visit the damn weapon trader.
'My only problem with riders is the bug where they can go through huntbreaks and no appropriate syntax is shown'
I bug reported this a while ago and i think it works whilst leading a mount as well. All the ainur told me was it wasn't a bug and i could trigger the new syntax... should be fun wondering whether to trigger for the single tap/double tap/when the target is riding/leading. Especialy if there's a hitching post nearby they can hapilly go and drop off/pick up their mount from.
riders have their own disadvantages and stamp and trample are like my fireball, warriors' headbutt and assassins' backstab. so if you are going to petition to nerf that, you might as well delete rider profession.
I have no problem with stamp, I love the rider profession. I dunno how his Mumak wasn't exhausted from running through the Marshes like that, what an endurance machine! 160 damage in the span of one round is rather harsh, since there is no way to train a RM for stamp, other than being mounted yourself... it is sufficiently random, I've tested it with my rider quite a bit... There is a cool down block on stamp AND trample, but I'm not sure if there is a cool down on the target like Tireless was mentioning... if you have 3 riders sit at Inside Mordor triggered to stamp... who knows what might happen!
My only problem with riders is the bug where they can go through huntbreaks and no appropriate syntax is shown. For example Altar has huntbroken me at Minas Morgul because it simply says, 'Altar leaves, riding a huge war mumak.' 'You can't go that way!' or at Osgiliath West Gates 'Altar leaves gate.' 'You follow Altar gate.' 'You can't go that way!'
Pretty annoying bullshit.
The same player with i guess the same animal did only 39 damage a few logs below,though even the emote was the same. It looks to me that it is random enough. And as far as i know, the damage depends on the skills of the rider, which is not true for backstabs.
Mumaks rock! Keep them the way they are!
Oh, and if anyone expects to survive on their own an attack by five knights and is not Jeanne d'Arc they should put the event in their personal 'Miracles' list :P
Get a stupid mount?!?! Ok, I haven't been a rider in a long time since I don't play : ), but this is what I remember about trample. You need a huge war mumak, which takes an hour to train and costs 1k, and trample has a very long cooldown and takes a lot of ep.
I have no problem with riders. It's a cool idea, and they should be diffrent from other classes. And having a mumak doing 1hp while trampling all over you would just be boring and fucked up. For once, leave it be, it's not like er's have enough riders todo this kind of things every pk that happens.
I'd settle for either making trample not work in conjunction with BS or reducing its damage - or making it have a relatively high miss rate. Also, regardless, if it is not already the case trample needs to be put on cooldown so you cannot be trampled more than once per unit time by mutliple riders... or we'll effectively have the capability for a 5-man party to backstab once per round for 5 rounds.
Either that, or remove the backstab cooldown to balance trample.
And honestly, ERs, even you should recognize that this is imbalanced - All you have to do is get a stupid mount and you can land as much damage without variation as a maxed assassin with skill boosting items and black sword?
so will there be a petition to nerf riders or remove mounts now by you FRs?
you actually sruvived that, butthead?! GRAH, I thought Volun was a trigger-happy...
Wow, look at that, Altar's trample did twice as much as the backstab! And they can be used in combination! Aint that interesting.
And for those reading the log, before this I was killing his mumak because he's a bitch to kill while riding that thing, and you can't report attempts on mounts; the fines for killing a mount isn't enough to dissuade me from trying to make him slightly more vulnerable. So people know what was up with the stabbing and hunting the mount.
It's nice to see the black sword being used and not just collecting dust when i'm not around to get it.