The villagers then whisper, With accents grim and dour: "This man has met at midnight The phantom of the moor."
I probably killed more evils myself during battlepoints than any other FR, and I don't even get mentioned?! WHERE'S THE LOVE?!
I mean, I didn't gather up parties to take back BP's, because that was boring, but I stopped many a raid by killing the evil party leader.
Ya, about my name, I never ment it to be Hot Ham. When I made it up to me it was Ho tham after a few days I realized the severity of my mistake :(
Just kidding. I really don't know you, nor do I care about killing you! Although I suspect your ham is luke warm at best.
THAT CAN BE ARRANGED
Man, I should die more often.
laefang just quit while you're at least this far behind. people quit playing, ie newbies, because they didn't know what was going on. they travelto rhosgobel got banged by 5 ers and wandered around as a ghost for 2 hours. yes that is what the game is missing the fear of being killed for no reason, and with no reimbursements because the majority of ers just wanted to say HEY LOOK AT ALL THE NAMES ON MY NECKLACE, even if they were level 5-9.
I died as much as I killed? Post logs. I'm gonna flood the log page.
And no, what contributes to the decline in members is the growing number of mmporgs being released that offer more interactive gameplay and alot more stuff to do. Oh and the fact every teenager who started playing this in it's hayday has now grown up and realised there's more important things in life than computer games. And to the few who remain who realise the freedom this game gives still have to put up with crap from people who refuse to accept anything new. As for newbie killers and spreekillers labels.. i've ****ing helped and taught stuff to more players than i care to remember so yes i've contributed a damn lot more to make this fun for people than i've ever taken out.
Sorry i forgot, people play to quest the same shit over and over and over again, they don't aspire to anything or hope for revenge instead they're after completing whatever tedious crap everyone else has. Once you grasp the combat system there's no damn thrill from surviving an npc battle. Why isn't mordor swarming with every new player post lvl15? because 'zomg!' you can get killed in there and it's still a ****ing risk. Remove the risk and you've just taken out a distinguishing factor that makes the mud so great. It's been here since day 1 and it stops this becoming just another clone of so many other games out there. The BPs also gave you a nice warscape command and pretty green colors so you knew when you couldn't be attacked by the opposing sides... ffs they copied the damn traffic light system and people still complain about being attacked when not prepared.
Haha. What bullshit, Laefang. Nobody continued to play because of you and your spreekilling buddies. The battlepoint system, and the way the majority of ERs behaved, are generally considered to be factors in the DECLINE of activity on the MUD.
Laefang i am so sad you didnt remember me :(
you fucking liar, its why people did not continue to play. but most of those logs weren't posted, like 95 percent of the logs weren't posted for that reason. bangs on newbies who were low levels flourished in your so called 'evil power house' yeh you're such a fucking group of superstars.
Tlaloc, winnetou, hinigrod, daywalkers random alts and baklen were the only ones i remember putting up much of a resistance. Daywalker kinda quit for a while, baklen turned evil after some conflict, tlaloc died as much as he killed and hinigrod left. The rest were evil and helped unite and lead the parties. The loge page is still full of their exploits just from different chars and 90% of the interesting stuff that gets posted is by them. So everyone else might hate them or love them but they're still a major part of why people continue to play, and whether you bitch or praise this small group of players the fact remains that without them the mud wouldn't be half the fun its turned out to be.
I disagree Tlaloc. Hiningrod during that time was like a pimpslapped prostitute on crack, tossed a sword and going berserk. He tore it up.
Funny you should continue to rip on Udungul of my era Fyng, as you did try to join after leaving Durmanhoth...
I miss you, Tlaloc!
I was the most powerful guild during the BattlePoints period. But I'd like to thank the allied evil forces, lead by whomever, for supplying the ceremonial blade. Sometimes there even was a challenge!
Maybe they do, Jaime, I wouldn't know - I left that circus. But thanks, that just proves my point about delusions even further :p
Duncan, don't lie, you're in the other 'unknown' guild :P I agree with Laefang, the evil guild/legion alliance that prevailed during the battlepoint era was by far mightier than anything mustered by the Free races, and Udungul was one of the strongest guilds by far. After it turned into the Durmanhoth storage site, it was corrupted, and in the end, it was ultimately eaten out like a wasp who lays eggs in a tarantula.
Sorry I just wanted to use that. Enjoy picturing it.
Lethe's comment is bemusing to me, because I got a tell from Waste yesterday saying all of his members 'worship him'
Heh, Udungul was easily one of the most powerful guilds during the battlepoints period.
That's because you only ever played the carebear side of the mud Mirnac. The alliance of evils a few months ago was the greatest cooprative force the mud has seen in years and the other side (bar a few) couldn't hiope to form any sort of resistance because of the lack of trust between players.
'Just sat there for a couple of years, did absolutely nothing to make the guild one of the most powerful ones in its time.' No offence but i have never ever seen or heard anything that would make Dungs one of the most powerfull guilds ever. But then again, i wasnt around just after megs went to become Dungs, so could be in that time frame. Or maybe your the delusion one?
Waste of talent...
Yeah, Lethe, I'm still puzzled how you once joined the crappiest of all guilds:P Even put a ton of effort in them. *wince* It was the filth of filth, the scum of Meglivornth. The cool old megs stayed moral.
Oh and before you respond with 'You got us into this aaaahh waaah!!', get a life. I got one, and I decided to stop mudding so actively. There was nobody else to make GM but the person I did. Maybe if you hadn't pussied out earlier, you wouldn't be in that situation right now?:p
Any self-respecting person would respond with 'war' to threats such as give us our gold back or we war you! No it wasn't fair what Ainur did. Life isn't fair, get over it. Had you kept your mouth shut and waited until Udungul is powerful again, you could've beat Durms into the ground, instead of a slooow shebangs war or begging for peace, either of which is gonna happen now. You're all fluff, Waste. Working for the past 5 years?:p Let me remind you what happened 2 years ago, when you came back to playing and joined Udungul right after it was forced to serve. Purely pk oriented, ERs had very limited and crappy eq, everything was lawless, it was tough/fun/whatever else you wanna call it. And what did you do? Pussied out, because it was 'too much pk-oriented' for you. Left and unserved. Worked hard? My crispy cream. Your delusions are amusing tho :p You own! So much better than anybody ever was. Me especially, because well I did nothing. Just sat there for a couple of years, did absolutely nothing to make the guild one of the most powerful ones in its time. Your politics and diplomacy are simply fascinating. Not only did you not get any of your gold back but you spent some hours trying to talk Manni into it, failing, making a fool of yourself with such threats, and getting your guild into a war while it's trying to rebuild. Bravo :p
Look at me, I'm happy without guilds:) Guilds are like reigns. Be free!
Waste has more than enough reasons to hate over half of durms, he was a founding member of dungs and Manni happily helped screwing them over for a bit of gold because i guess his guild couldn't be bothered golding themselves. You might be trying to make durms a nice rp guild but eventually it'll end up at all out war again. It's what most of your member ENJOY doing, you won't control them because they do what the hell they want on whatever whim they see fit. It's not wrong because they're here to enjoy themselves but if your trying to convince yourselves otherwise then that's just ignorance. Dungs will survive like always ableit with a bitter taste in their mouths but they can just sit back and watch the fireworks when durms members get bored again.
What i remember people have said that azkur and CO would ruin Udungul since they took over, so if you wanted to save your guild you should have done a overthrow and saved the gold, instead of waiting around and hoping for the best.
That was a horribly long post, sorry.
I am tired of this constant rant in mocking my standard of RP, honor and theme. I am sick and tired of trying to speak fluent retard, which is btw the only way you will get through to any Durm, other than Manni. I respect Manni only because, unlike his other members, he came to me and was honest when he said: Udungul gold was up for grabs, I bribed Azkur for it, we agreed he would lower the rank of each and every member of the guild to not be able to see the guild balance, and remain as a GM until Udungul disbanded after which the udungul members would be let into Durms. He told me he was upset that Azkur gave me GM'ship and it was against their agreement. No matter how lowly it is to say all those things about a guild that has so much heritage and history on this mud, I respect Manni for telling me as it is, and not sugar coat it.
After trying to use the Ainu to get our gold back, like Glorglas, I swallowed their decision not to treat us the same. I was told that Udungul was given the same opportunity as Glorglas. Yeah, Azkur/Amearn/Altar spent the best of their term bringing in people just like them, honorless, respectless pk hungry guys. All of which were followers of their retarded trade, when Azkur hit the button of the transfer, Drogian demoted him and ran a vote amongst the 'current' members who all of course have no care in the world for Udungul itself. On the other hand, Polk who let in people without investigating them got overthrown, and almost had his cash transfered away. In that case Drogian restored Polk as a GM and halted the transfer. Fair? I dont think so.
Then, i tried working a deal with Durms to only get a portion of the gold, and by a potion I mean very small one. I struck a deal with Manni because I understood he spent most of the gold he got which in his own words 'was done to prevent the ainu from transfering it back' on armoury upgrade and guild expansion. I wait for that gold for over 30 days and he never transfered it. Mute jumped out and said that I should work for this gold. I should work for my guild's own gold by being nice to durms. Being nice to the people who stole gold from us in the first place and then, and only then, will they consider giving us a portion of it back.
Any self respecting person would not accept such treatment. I told them, transfer the gold and then we can be ok. They refused, so we are in the situation we are in now.
Empty threats? My guild was almsot diasbanded, and even though we recovered, we still have this big scar to remind us we got all our gold stolen from. I will never forget that, and thats why we are in the situation we are in today.
Thats the story, and all of you are free to judge me the way he/she wants. But do not disrespect my standards and thrive to keep the honor of the guild I worked so hard on in the past 5 years. I only killed the udunguls who were pk'hungry and themeless and ruined the reputation of the place that ones was the best. I have every right to the gold which was transfered away because, over 3 characters, i have worked my butt off for udungul.
Whatever
God knows what Pallasch would demand as tribute. Shrines? Daily worship services? Burnt offerings?
Succesful diplomatic relations?!?! I thought Durmanhoth was a guild filled with bloodthirsty assassins... Oh my!
Yes, Manni does a fine job of paying monthly tribute to my fantasticness.
I'm not sure who you are or where your hostility is coming from, Kalmah. We've created a peaceful guild that supports its players and minds its own business, regardless of the history of the guild or a few of the players in it. If you judge Durmanhoth by its actions in the 7 months since I've been GM, you will see a very solid track record of successful diplomatic relations with every guild except Udungul, post hostile takeover from Waste. That's not the standard mode of operation for spree killers and newbie killers.
As far as newbies go, the MUD wouldn't be anywhere without a constantly thriving newbie population. I'm proud that the older, more experienced players have embraced the guild's decision to open up to players without Mordor or PK experience. There's always a place in a guild of mine for smart players that are willing to learn. The difference is that we spend time and energy to make these guys better players. I think that's vital for the MUD and for a guild. There are a few guilds that could also quintuple activity in 6 months, given that they adopt a similar philosophy.
Doesn't matter. I'm all for tearing udungul down. I don't like being killed:) EVEN if its a nice kill.... *cackles*
Actually its full of the people that kill anything that moves, shielded by clueless newbies. And to answer your question, Waste was killing the pathetic durmdunguls.
Kalmah and Exhalev's comments seem to show conflicting opinions as to why my guild sucks. 1) Because it's full of newbies or 2) Because it's full of people that can kill anything that moves.
Either way, we didn't need the 1.5 million, but I was more than happy to accept it. It's not like Waste has a personal claim to it. He was killing Udunguls as an FR in KotN 8 months ago. How's that for consistent theme?
Manni, your guild blows, and has no theme whatsoever. You people can't gold shit yourselves, so feel the need to accept 2 million gold of another guild, retrieved through multiplaying and other shit. The funny thing is dungs went and got at least 4-5 months worth of rent in the first week from nothing, and let that shit go because they're not as pathetic as you are.
'I want to be crystal clear that Durmanhoth is maintaining its stance of being kind to new players and those who mind their own business. We are not reverting to any PK-happy ways and we certainly do not wish to jeopardize the good relations that we have forged in the last few months.'
Heh, your guild is home to some of the biggest spreekillers, gangbangers, and newbiekillers of late. But sure... whatever you say.
Durmanhoth will get shit on if they enter into a PvP conflict, your guild is full of newbies that shield you while you quest in Mordor in 9 man parties :P
It was up for grabs in a fire sale, just like the guildhall. I grabbed the gold, Waste grabbed the guildhall.
Considering the cost of the maxed armoury, a basic guildhall these days, and the shop/bar/rank room/voting system that Waste got with the guildhall, I'd say Waste probably got the better deal. Especially since Waste never even followed through with his end of the bargain in paying for it.
So what happened to the 2mil?
Manni said: 'That being said, Waste da Man and his guild must be shown that they cannot continue this extortion and manipulation.'
Unfortunatly, Waste da man's guild had no clue of this whatsoever :(
For the last month, Waste da Man has been instigating a war between Udungul and Durmanhoth, based on false and faulty premises. In this time, he has asked at least 3/4 of the guildmasters in Arda to join an alliance against Durmanhoth. At least 3/4 of the guildmaster in Arda (all the ones that he asked) turned him down, most with a hearty chuckle and a shake of the head, some with a look of befuddlement.
Yet Waste da Man forged on in his crusade for war, asking more people to join in war, setting ultimatums and never seeing them through. He tried to extort Durmanhoth by setting these deadlines and making threats, all the while hoping that some other guild would join his coalition of one so that he could let an ally bear the grunt work of a war.
We have had enough of this hostile extortion and the befouling of Durmanhoth's good name at the hands of Waste da Man. Enough is enough. We have been exceedingly patient through Waste da Man's threats and we have waited for him to cool off. However, his hostilities have continued and we must respond.
I want to be crystal clear that Durmanhoth is maintaining its stance of being kind to new players and those who mind their own business. We are not reverting to any PK-happy ways and we certainly do not wish to jeopardize the good relations that we have forged in the last few months. That being said, Waste da Man and his guild must be shown that they cannot continue this extortion and manipulation.
Waste da man! Haha.
What a stab.. Nice trigs.. <3
Ya, as well as Waste not telling us about any alignments being formed....He doesn't like to tell us when he threatens other guilds and we got to war...so I basically got double tapped for something I had no clue about :P
So ya, I'm a little pissed at waste.
But anyway nice kill Duncan, nice trigger on the flask, i probably would have been ok if it wasn't for that, but nice job taking advandage of my stupid mistakes, it's what assassination is all about.
No, they are like 2k for murder and less for attempts:P Aging has its advantages;)
They'll learn not to drop (especially with the SS). Your fines must be getting pretty nasty by now though Dunc.
Why store your sword and then drop the flask? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of freeing your hands? :p
You got the Shadow Sword. That thing is a curse, I tells ya!
Very nice solo.
Trigger for getting the flask :D