Where do your loyalties lie?
I've really fucking missed bakal on this page. Get the Texican back and it'll be back like the old days.
*chuckles*
Obviously Daeman, my comment about egos and infighting didn't apply to you.
Well Hirgail, it WAS directly under control. Till I hibed of course and it all went down hill once Nirrab became gm etc etc. Anyone who denies this fact is an idiot. I logged everything just in case. Especially for those of you who want to know the real truth. All my conversations, diplomatic talks etc etc with Kelos, Balzamon etc etc. I logged it all just in case so I can throw it back in Waste's face for being a dumbass and making a DUMB ass move. Oh and for Daeril who went against my wishes and decided to come up with some lame ass treaty after I told him not to. But hey thats life, I care not for any of it. I just wanna see them get manhandled like the noobs they are.
Who would have thought a guild made up of Herkimers and opportunistic pkers who are more ego than meat would self destruct? Im shocked.
On a side note. I'm a long time friend of Nirrab and would normally back him up on any situation, but I'm a firm believer he can't handle it. Especially after a so called ' I was hacked situation, I'm going to steal aiglos and then get kicked by bkd' Actually made me look like an idiot in front of Azer for vouching for him.. If you can believe I can be any more of an idiot sometimes:)
I would of done exactly what Lomar did. Friends come first. Thats why this place is called a community. The fact that it was against his guild sucks but thats tuff shit. This is a perfect example to why Nirrab will run udungul into the ground. If he was a compatent GM he would of took the time to assess the situation. The fact is they all wanted blood and they had the chance to get a free kill. Lomar on the other hand has done more for Udungul ,in his small amount of time being there, than Nirrab has done in the last two years. But hey, lets see what Waste's going to say about Udungul this time. I can't wait till he sees war on his doorstep x10 worse than it was a month ago. *rotfl* With who to back them up? Nirrab? *Toodles!
It make since too me.
Whether you like it or not, it still sucks.
I like my english. I like krimps english too so no worries there
If your IRL friends actually get mad at you for pking them on this game then they're douche bags and you shouldn't hang out with them anymore.
If you and your buddies all play this game, then you obviously know who is affiliated with each guild, and should accept that that person has a responsibility to that guild (just like you do to your guild), and thus, you should not ask him to save you if you suck and got yourself locked up by his guildmates. Instead, laugh about it at lunch the next day while you sit at that one table way in the corner away from normal people where losers, like yourself, eat your fucking lunch. Nerd. I hate you. Get a life.
-Bakal!
I think I played for 5hours once I was like 'F%^& this I'm bored'
case in point, your irl friends are more important than your ingame friends
if you get kicked out of a guild for your irl friends, then either join their guild (they can make one hell of a loyalty argument) or start your own together ;)
Dude, where are you from? You sound like Krimpatul, if not worse :P
Then we're two
Ergo sounds retarded.
So might be me but don't nirrab mp like shit anyways and ofc if he get stuck with his penis in the zipper then he might as well kill lomar over it but havn't you done this shit before dude/idiot?
and I would have unlocked for a friend and even told the people trying to kill him to fuck off or I would just leave the guild. the difference is that I don't like people fucking with my guild so I usually don't get stuck in these situation. but then again some people rock some people don't. allalalalalalalalalalala
Shoe contracts all round!
Someone told Lomar that they had been misinformed as to the fact that Tim and myself are obese :P
and I wonder who they're going to ask to see if they're fat :P
'Exhalev tells you: we gotta get even more ripped then get pics up'
I too found this hilarious.
'I love how you say im so blood thirsty and just wanted the ear. I have killed 1 person in the last month and that's lomar.'
That second sentence was exactly what he was saying, so it doesn't do much to discredit him.
I smirked at this part.
'Exhalev tells you: we gotta get even more ripped then get pics up'
'The RP part is what your retarded asses bring to it, it's not hard coded...'
Arawn, you douchebag :) Thanks for giving people something to not be.
'Moral of the story is: Don't join a guild.'
If you can't separate or RP characters -at all-, hell yes.
I played a lot of one and a half or two day shifts back in the day, but it was always during an RP battle or big release. I'm sure I was on for more than a day during both the MT and CU releases. For some of the first march 15 events too probably. It didn't used to be that uncommon really.
I read a book once, front to back, for 17 hours straight, not putting it down to even eat my dinner. I can't concentrate on anything else for nearly that long. Even back when I really got into this game, I could only play for 7 hours, tops.
But wait! Don't bother replying, anyone...I'll do it for you. :)
'No one cares, asshole.'
There have been people who've played entire 3d+ boots, plus more into the next.
There was a guy named Nortoro who once stayed on for 42 hours.
I don't think i have ever been on for 16 hours a day and arawn i bet you 1000$ you have been on for 11+ hours before. I mean don't even go there ithilcalad was been on for a day and 16 hours.
if I were you i'd overkill them
But those tells came after the fact, so they couldn't have been the reason. Obviously the guild had no loyalty to him either. Considering they turned on him before he really turned on them. He was apologetic at first, those tells might have been different if you had given him a real chance to explain himself before killing him.
Suffice it to say, we didn't kill him because he unlocked the lock. His tells to me abuot 'not giving a damn and he would've done it anyway' is what pissed me off. Thats why he was booted and killed. He had no loyalty to the guild and obviously didn't belong there.
Wow, the drama, Shakespeare couldnt have done it better...
As for my opinion on this, i'd give it, but it would be quite pointless and would probably fall on deaf ears so i wont...
Have a nice day everybody :)
I don't see Tireless on for 16 hours a day Derk:P
this game is all tireless has to live for :( so i would beg and plead also to get out
It's a game!
I think logpage comments should just start with 'It's a game!' automatically. It would appear at the top of each comment and you can't remove it. And then maybe once again at the bottom so you really wouldn't forget.
It's a damn game!
2/3 is too optimistic manni :p
'Holy crap...I leave for class, come back 3 hours later and there are 45 new posts....don't you people have lives outside of arguing on a forum about a game?'
What are you doing here then?
The irony is that about 2/3 of the comments in this thread are from people who are just bored at work.
Oh shit, I'm always forgetting this was a game.. there should be a public service announcement ever hour or so to remind everyone. Better yet, start giving the mud downtime so some of us are forced to go look for jobs and lives.
christ i'm laughing my ass off right now you guys that are acting like retards are such tools
its a damn game
and the punishment for lomar shouldnt have been that
Yes... However while we're at work we get paid to argue about an online game.
Holy crap...I leave for class, come back 3 hours later and there are 45 new posts....don't you people have lives outside of arguing on a forum about a game?
Moral of the story is: Don't join a guild.
Had I know who was in there, do you really think that I would have walked in there? The answer is no. I walked in there because I wanted to see who was in there, etc.
just goes to show you why udungul less a guild, and more a club house of distrust
i dont think that daaeril would have done the same thing, hes pretty thoughtful if you just give him a chance :)
I remember when I killed Apeture inside the guildhall and then booted him over a misunderstanding. When the misunderstanding was cleared out, I apologized and I let him back in, and he didn't go insane and pout and throw hissy fits because he was a friend, and he understood why I did what I did. Not even a rl friend :p My point being, it's not nice to kill friends, and I admit Lomar's situation sucked because usually you can just log off or pretend you're idle when your guild goes after your friend, and take no part of it. But if your friend does happen to die because of you, who gives a fuck? He's your friend therefore you're not gonna go flaunting it and make him embarassed/lose his honour, and you can log on your alt and help him relvl right away. Sure he might pout but if he has been in a guild he'll know that guild vs friends is something unavoidable if you're in a guild, completely unavoidable. So whether you're gonna log off, play idle, or say sorry I couldn't do anything, lemme switch and relvl you real quick, or leave the guild and help your friend, it happens, why do people get so upset is beyond me. Look at all the drama, man.
I removed and re-posted because I spelled out 'running back' by mistake. Clearly the person I thought you were is a 'runnen back' and not a 'running back', as it were.
So Derk, Lomar knew who he was letting free and just for fun he walked into the place to laugh in your faces and act innocent?
Damnit, you removed your comment and posted it again :P
Well, I thought you were a Michigan State runnen back that loved drinken beers and bangen MILFS.
*snorts8 nah bro, that's fucken baklen.
Well Manni, who do you think I am? :P
Forgive me for stating the obvious, but if Lomar just unlatched and left without entering, all the drama would have been avoided... not to say that I didn't enjoy this :)
I love how you say you love things that you really hate.
Herugrim sucks. I sent an idea report in about an upgrade and ungoliant said it was powerfull enough. what a crack
I love how daeril is sticking up for lomar now. If daeril was in my situation he wouldn't hesitate a god damn second to stab me for letting tireless away. talk about blood thirsty.
I love how you say im so blood thirsty and just wanted the ear. I have killed 1 person in the last month and that's lomar. I hate tireless. He attacks me all the friggen time. If im blood thirsty for killing a traitor then call me what you want. Lomar is just trying to make us look bad by saying i didn't know. The fact is i bet he did know who was in there. i wouldn't admit it either.
Dude Bakal there were like 15 people who did that. I think Mithgil was the worst offender.
Well, at the end of the log their actions were warranted if you actually meant that you would have unlocked for tireless regardless of whether or not you knew it was them killing him.
But when it happened, for all they knew at the time Derk attacked you, it was just a misunderstanding and you didn't mean to betray the guild. They didn't even give you enough time to fully explain yourself. Actually, it looked like they decided to kill you the second you came in the room. Good guildmates give their own the benefit of the doubt and work out a solution after finding all the details. Good RP for an evil guild though, I guess.
That log was a sad show of you getting owned :P
I was the guy who always commed, 'omgosh, lol, hahahaha, legend manni' just to get you spammed when you were an immortal :P
Yeah Im pissed off! It's 2:30am I've got to be up for work at 5am and I can't sleep! Fucking...whatever is keeping my awake! That's the real bad guy here.
I know that I know who Bakal is, but I always forget. He's typing much too well for him to be who I thought he was.
This is kinda sad. I mean they killed him and booted him from the guild over an accident. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have unlocked if he knew who was locked up with who. Does killing Tireless really matter so much? Should have just said 'oops!' and laughed about it. Anyway, what kind of fucking sad sack loser wouldn't choose a friend over a game? And another thing! Fuck off, this isn't a role playing game in the sense that it's required that you take on a persona. It's a fucking hack and slash MUD where you solve puzzles and kill shit. The RP part is what your retarded asses bring to it, it's not hard coded into the game (or wasn't until some of you jackasses immorted)
Bullshit! Hotham gave up at the eel lock like 3 logs ago!
I got locked by Duncan and Caber once upon a time and I said, 'Oh well, fuck it.' and then made a funny log out of it. So, moral of the story is, you're a douche bag.
I have never, ever seen an assassin just go 'Oh well, I'm locked, fuck it' and duke it out. Every time I've ever seen anyone locked, the first thing they do is ask around to see if anyone has the key. So, uh, if 'tell kelos Got STS key?' is begging, then you're damn right I was begging for the key, and I make no apology for it.
I didn't get asked. And I get asked for the STS key no less than 3 times a day.
You asked 13 people if they had key? Sounds like begging to me :P
I completely agreed with you until you made that dumb little insult at the end.
Great stuff! Incredibly stylish log, this is what the log page is all about!
revised title: miscommunication or angrywtfdie-miscommunication
Nah, the simple answer is, if you're locked up, you shouldn't hop on MSN and beg your buddy to unlock the gates. Just suck it up and take your death. Clownified.
the simple answer here is you should have used an alt to unlock
If I was Lomar, I would have asked who was inside...
This is all very silly. Just a big misunderstanding.
Formid and Foraker, he didn't unlock it against his own guildmates on purpose, he didn't KNOW who was inside, nor did I. If Lomar had known who was inside, he would not have unlatched it for Tireless. After being flamed and then stolen from, why should Lomar take that bullshit attack and just shrug? He was explaining the situation while being murdered in cold-blood by his ignorant guildmates.
Hahahahaha
Very Lord of the Flies.
And keep in mind that I had no idea of who was inside of STS.
Nirrab: Don't try to cover your own ass by claiming that this log is edited. The only thing edited in this log is my ip, my password and the alias out of Udungul GH. So don't try to put something that you've done onto someone else's shoulders.
Well said Formid :)
always keep your msn off while you are mudding :P
Jesus. Drama queens.
I have to admit, there never used to be retards this bad in the game until relatively recently. Sure we've always had people with a complete inability to seperate characters, but even THEY weren't dumb enough to help someone out using a character against their own guild.
We've also had people who would at the drop of a side switch alliances, and go against their own guild, but with the full knowledge that they will be either kicked from their guild or they are leaving the guild.
Show at least some modicum of character separation, if you want to be in a guild, then that characters allegience to that guild must be total. Helping out an enemy of that guild on that character is in my eyes bad, but dealable with just don't tell anyone, doing it in front of your guild mates is probably the most idiotic thing I have ever seen. It's as bad as lending someone a unique from the guild bank which they then use to kill one of your guildmates.
On the subject of screaming for help over MSN in things like the STS. If you're stupid enough to get yourself locked in there with no way out, take the death, learn from it and make sure it doesn't happen again.
They shouldn't care enough about dying to want to fuck up his guild relations :P
I used to laugh at Duncan, but it is so bad that it is not funny anymore. I pity you, man.
hahahaha @ Duncan
[new] Date: 02. Aug, 2007, 10:42:59 By: Foraker
Saying RL friends have priority is a moronic argument. It's a game, they shouldn't care that much about dying.
First when you die, you lose your honour. Second, you lose stats and skills and you have to waste time to retrain them up to 100. Maybe I have to pwn you to remind you of dying. In this particular log the honour thing didn't apply but I can still kill you (Foraker) for sounding like the characters involved in it. It's not just a game.
Yes, they shouldn't have asked him to unlock - but not because they don't care if they die but because they are supposed to have some honour. This log seemed an accident though, I don't think Tireless meant to involve Lomar and Daeril probably didn't know who was with Tireless inside. It could've been me, haha:P
Otherwise, Lomar, your friends suck, your guild sucked...man, I pity you.
I agree with whatever Foraker just said! It's totally true! I'm not sure why Tireless was pissed at me after that. Weird.. -_-'
P.S. Drama is fun, lets get a big argument going here.
Saying RL friends have priority is a moronic argument. It's a game, they shouldn't care that much about dying. This is an RP game, even if some people powerplay it. You can be friends with somebody and still be on opposite sides, and if you can't handle that you should play the same side.
So imho... I could understand that you logged on, heard a friend in trouble and aliased there to steal/unlock. BUT if you knew it was YOUR OWN GUILD KILLING HIM, you shouldn't have helped him. But then you seemed to argue to Nirrab that even if you knew your guild was killing him, you'd still help him because 'RL friends come first.' Well, in that case you're obviously incapable of RPing and being a member of a guild. It's one thing not to go after RL friends, it's another to act against your own guild for them.
BTW: It doesn't show Nirrab has no friends, it shows he actually knows how to separate a game from RL.
Haha, Kelos, let's kudo them:)
This log has his tells to me edited. Which is the basis of this. His disregard for his guildmates caused this death.
Umm.. uh.. Well.. I don't know what to say. Both of them seems to be right to me. Life is unfair I guess.
what. the. fuck. You people really REALLY need to exercise some...detachment.
And clearly, Derk just wanted to kill you because an unarmed thief accidentally falling into his lap while he has two other guys to look after him is the only way he's gonna get an ear on his necklace:P
wow should all be nuked if someone read this log
I could kudo all of you for excellent role play...you all acted like servants of Sauron there...betrayal, killing each other in your camp, etc...
Awesome, well done!
Tireless told me on MSN he was locked in STS, didn't say with who. I tried to get key, failed, asked Tim to snag it. Didn't tell him even for who.
Clearly, the game comes first Lomar. You're insane for thinking otherwise:P
To be clear, I am not the rl friend who asked him to unlock.