The era of the solos is gone.
Comments from Valoc make two double deaths a happy log.
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SSDD.
Refer down to my comment about letting in non-assassins.
'Kelevra's been in similar situations since he chose being an assassin over staying in Durm.'
Not like he didn't get admitted with an alt what, 24hours later?
Well... A while ago, I heard from Waste that our guilds would never be friends and would always be fighting. Then Sunday, Waste sent me a mail asking why I was under the impression that there was still a war. And I don't know how he got the impression that there's peace.
I don't mind ending the war with Udungul, though. That would be fine.
Truth is hot, Jaron is hot too, then Jaron is saying the truth :P
'don't help dungs, I promise we'll boot the bulgarians once the war is over'
I've made good on every promise I'm able to... And when members of my guild have broken promises, they've been punished. I don't know what else to say, because there's just no history there of promises being broken.
I don't want to be killing all these BkD members that are going about their business and keeping out of trouble, but BkD has declared war and Balzamon has said that he will not talk to me about ending it. That leaves us few options here. I mean, I could pull an Appledore, but I think everyone saw how well that turned out the first time.
Good point Jaron... Its like claiming Ents are not tree :P
Thing is, you are not known for keeping promises, and it barely matters whether Putin is officially a member or not when he is invited to your guild whenever he is online, behaves like a member and stores his eq there.
Yeah, here's the thing...
I proposed to Balzamon that I'd boot Torah's Durm character, make all three characters (Torah, Goomboo, and Kosher) that had mass murdered BkDs publicly apologize, change professions to non-assassins, and hibernate for a relatively lengthy time to be determined.
I then requested that I have about 30 hours to organize this because I wasn't going to be around for about the next 28 hours. Balzamon said that we could talk further, but since I didn't boot all three Durmanhoth characters (who were completely innocent characters aside from maybe Kvedulf), BkD was declaring war.
Aduial is really the most unbiased source you could imagine when discussing my friends and me.
You're making it sounds as if we declared the war.
The BKD did deserve a beating for bullying on newbs. I did nothing back then because I didn't want to piss my friend Azer. Although I was close. Otherwise the BKD have a history of being a solid guild and behaving good. And just when they changed and became newbie-friendly and cool, a bunch of idiots ruins everything. And it all reminds me of the old Durms. The old Durms sucked.
Stop mentioning them as if they used to be something good. They were scums of scums, were low lives, not worth anything.
The new Durmanhoth was a promising guild, I was hoping it could get rid of its past.
Manni sounds like a Commission consigliere here.
I'm merely enjoying my life. I don't care about the 'old durms'. It's true, BkD has been needing beating for a long time. Especially because of Azer. I don't want to harm the others, though. They're good guys. Thing is, they declared this war. When they decide to stop it, I think Manni should cooperate.
Gonna have to go with Rekthorne on this one. BkD's history is solid and only shows that they are a mule - always somehow plow through everything and come out on top. Durm's history shows them being brought to a week or two away from forceful disbandment due to inactivity or lack of cash. And don't try to bring up the old Durms cos you're not them and far from :p So, in the end, after all you dramaqueens are finished, inactive, nuked, suicided, we'll see what we have always seen.
Furthermore, one of the main reasons that I don't let these assassin characters into the guild is so that these loose cannon assassins are not running all over Arda with the MELS and 2 flasks all the time.
Look at Putin yesterday buying that halberd from the Linhir shop to PK with. Had he been using a GRB and a bota, he would've been the one posting the log. Kelevra's been in similar situations since he chose being an assassin over staying in Durm.
Now it's not just good-hearted beneficence that I do this for. I firmly believe that a guild with its foundations in PKing other guilded players cannot last as a power in Arda. Rather than this wild cycle of 3 good months and 2 bad years, I much, much prefer a guild that is solid and stable for that entire time. Guild wars and PKing guilded players just does not allow for that. So I generally don't allow for it by any member of my guild.
That said, if guys in my guild make alts to run around and have fun with, that's their own business... It's certainly not mine. Those are the rules of the game.
Hi, we're not killing... It was 3 characters unaffiliated with my guild that were killing.
Duncan, I apologize about the arrest... I thought we already settled this?
We don't pretend to have any high percentage of the best PKers on the MUD. In fact, when most of these guys apply, I tell them that they have to pick a profession other than assassin before I'll let them in. Ask Kvedulf, Bevler, Fyng, Jared, or any of about 4 other loose cannons that I don't want shooting off unless I personally light them.
I should have said '75% of the best active PKers.'
On a side note. Who made the comment about inactivity. IS EXACTLY RIGHT. This shit with Durmanhoth happens every couple of years. It's been low key since Daedin haven't been around. But I'm glad they are killing again. Do I need to say I told you so to everyone?
75 percent? I like to think maybe 25 percent. The other 75percent are thinking about wiping the floor with durmanhoth or coming out of their hiatus!! But what do I know of such things. I'm just a throw away character:(
ah, I forgot to sign,
The best PKer in game@
But, Jaron, YOU are.
Alkath, compared to my ego, yours looks like a teddy bear:P
Heh, so many times I think I have a big ego, and so many times I am proven wrong by people on the logpage :p
no wonder you get along with bkd.
Namarik, learn MUD history or something. The last time a guild tried this on me, they were begging me to let them go out of their GH so they could pay their guild dues. You don't pull the tail of a tiger for fun.
duncan your usually cool.. it was an arrest you were wanted.. you had fun.. get off your high horse and get over it.
Or they thought they could just pummel a few newbies and get gold.. like did to quickblades. Or balzamon is just butt hurt about being arrested.. And none of those three(goom.. torah and kosher) have i seen anywhere near durm gh before you started your bk====d are bigger then you crusade. and even then i've not seen them anywhere near.
Look Manni, your members should know better than to try to arrest me and to attack my party.
Durms wanted the war because they have 75% of the best PKers in the game again finally. When those guys just go inactive or leave the guild and Durms suck and get pounded yet again, Manni will sing a different tune. Rekthorne the edain Prognosticator.
Manni, you are very good at twisting people's words and making it always sound like you are the good guy no matter what the situation. You should become a politition :)
Step 1: You declared war against Torah, Goomboo, and Kosher
Step 2: You declared war against Durmanhoth.
Step 3: Durmanhoth works with Torah against you.
Step 4: You're incredulous about Step 3.
This is like stealing two different kids' lunch money and then acting shocked when the two kids decide to gang up against you to get their lunch money back.
so you guys just play patty cake in the same guild hall all the time then. If you really wished to work with me on the situation you never would of coroporated with those three. Sounds to me like it was durms that wanted this war.
Those characters were NOT found out to be loyal Durmanhoth. They were completely unconnected to Durmanhoth.
Compared to Duncan, we are all inferior, pitiful beings. That's his mentality, haven't you realized yet?
Duncan's statement is pretty ludicrous, Shardik is a long way from being a newbie.
First off, you specifically told me that 2 of the 3 were founding members of durmanhoth. Not the low ranked members your suddenly trying to claim. The kill on kvedulf was completely justified during our conversation because not only did he arrest a bkd (me) but arrested with poison. I never once declared war on durmanhoth until it was found that your guild was providing a safe haven to the three players I approached you about. So lets get this straight, bkd is harassed by three throwaway characters, all who are found out to be loyal durmanhoth, after I bring this to your attention rather then you take any sort of action at all you then start harboring the three. Sure Kosher may be 34 days old but he is attacking everything that moves. You have no where to stand on torah and goomboo as these were created solely to harass the mud. Yet you still manage to put these guys on a pedestal and then are surprised when you find out you got a war on your hands.
That's addressing the Duncan 'newbie killers' accusation, which is just entirely without merit.
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From the Anvik log comments:
Date: 28. Aug, 2007, 11:54:29 By: Waste
Why was this war started anyways
My response:
It started when 3 typists of Black Hand, who each happened to have low ranking Durm characters, used separate non-Durm characters and attacked some BkDs and I think a VC. Their non-Durm characters had no contact with Durms, did not use the Durm guildhall, or use Durm equipment before BkD declared war on Durm. They were completely separate. Balzamon demanded that I immediately expel all three low ranking Durm characters because of what their alts had done. I said we could work out a solution, but I'd need to talk with all three typists about possible rectification first. Balzamon refused and immediately declared war. In fact, while we were even discussing this, Regorn attacked Kvedulf and Winnetou.
Balzamon's argument is that Torah, a level 18 character with maxed stats, skills, and relatively low fines; Kosher, a 34 day old character; and Goomboo, almost 4 days old and a warrior; are all throwaway characters made for the purpose of spree killing and newbie killing. Never mind that they only killed characters level 17 and over or that about 80 percent of the people they killed were in BkD. Or that they paid their fines. All of these things are very inconsistent with short-term spree killing characters.
On the other hand, I am in no way defending their actions. I think that all out attacks outside of guild wars are a waste of everyone's time, especially when it's experienced PKers killing people who they know aren't even going to try to hunt break. It's a waste of gold for the killer and a waste of stats/skills for the victim. And often it leads to someone making mountains out of molehills like this.
Now... I don't blame Balzamon for starting a war because people in his guild tell him they need a war. I think Balzamon's a nice guy, but he's just new at this whole GM thing. Nobody wins in a war like this, which is why it should have never started.
No, it means you durms are so arrogant that I'm gonna have to come and own you. Newbie killers.
Failure of the Day?
Does FoD stand for Realizing BkD Shouldn't Have Declared War on Durm?
Good kills, terrible party leading by Shardik, now FoD.
I'll second that. Nice work.
Jared honestly oozes sex appeal.