The PoT gang and the funky dwarf

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Mordhred [legacy]
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16 October 2008 00:00:00
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Posting for Khaine with the sole purpose of pissing people off. I hope you enjoy it.

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    Rhoads [legacy]
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    26 October 2008 19:51:54

    I don't think one moderator can unblock what the other one did. I will tak with Nicu

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    Shabba [legacy]
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    26 October 2008 18:43:45

    Amen

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    26 October 2008 17:45:10

    The fuck do I care what your name is?

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    Urban [legacy]
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    26 October 2008 17:25:46

    Osama Bin-Galadin! Terrorist of the logpage.

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    Galadin [legacy]
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    26 October 2008 15:30:06

    Hirgail, it is galadin, not galanin :P

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    Haarni [legacy]
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    25 October 2008 20:31:48

    While we are on the subject Rhoads, Ecidon blocked all my alts about a year ago. He is now totaly inactive, is there any chance of getting Falgor 'reinstated'.

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    Miroth [legacy]
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    25 October 2008 18:36:54

    vermond blocked my rectum with his penis.

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    Vermond [legacy]
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    25 October 2008 18:34:09

    And reading back on Aryl's comments, he didn't rate 3 logs of his own. I think I found out that he had rated most of the top 20 logs with several alts. I can't be bothered to check again. As far as I remember he had a log that was at the border, so he was rating that one with 6s with all of his alts and rating those closeby with 1s to get it up there, basically manipulating the list.

    That could be countered by allowing moderators to remove ratings, closing logs to ratings after a while (so that people can't go around rating logs we don't check) or by getting a psychiatrist to treat all of you miserable twats who think your life depends on the rating of your logs (I'd bet Aryl cries over each log of him that goes off top 20) and try to get back at people you don't like by rating their logs low.

    The first two didn't happen because I didn't want to waste Nicuramar's time and the third because I can't be bothered marketing you guys as a case study. So we changed the rules.

    Anyways, back to essay now. Has to be done before formal in 3 hours.

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    Vermond [legacy]
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    25 October 2008 18:15:16

    I blocked all of the accounts of 3-4 people involved in the issue. After the change in rules, I unblocked the ones that had existing characters upon demand.. which I suppose didn't work very well for Aryl. To be honest I don't think I need a reason to do a bit of cleaning up regarding typists with 10 accounts from past characters. Each of these accounts basically behave like a 'get out of jail free' card as it is possible to keep rotating whenever one of these is blocked for a few days.

    Now if I was really malicious, I would have just blocked all of his accounts directly - I had every reason to considering his past bug abuses and status on mud as persona non grata. Instead I just let him keep a few of his accounts and obviously he's losing one each time he tries to make my life as a moderator harder. It's up to him to be honest.

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    Haarni [legacy]
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    25 October 2008 14:45:42

    [new] Date: 24. Oct, 2008, 20:37:18 By: Aryl

    The point is that it was changed after only I was selectively punished. Brubaker had 2 accounts banned, and at the time, all of mine were. I'm not trying to cause a stir.

    I have 8 accounts banned for rating abuse, you really are not the only guy. :P

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    Vermond [legacy]
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    25 October 2008 12:55:07

    I'm finding someone to help, no worries.

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    25 October 2008 12:50:21

    Yer dang smart schoolin ain't near as imported as fixin up this here logs thing, fag.

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    Vermond [legacy]
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    25 October 2008 11:45:12

    Rhoads, I'm doing my phd :P

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    Vermond [legacy]
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    25 October 2008 11:42:46

    I was just streaming through comments as I don't have much time irl anymore. Then I see this. By all means, Aryl was abusing the system in more than a few ways by rating more than half of the top 20 logs with 5+ alts to keep his logs there and his enemies' logs off it. As we had no way of removing or adjustign ratings, it was a major case of abuse. The way I see it, he deserved to get all of his accounts removed permanently just for security reasons, and he would had the rule not been changed.

    One thing I'm getting sick of is the way he has been whining about it occassionally just to gather public support or make me look bad. I've retorted to him in the same fashion at least 5 times and he keeps trying to make my life harder with guerilla tactics of bitching..

    So I say 10/11, and wait for him to strike again.

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    25 October 2008 08:57:26

    Actually rhoads, until people really started being total dickheads, the real honestly good logs that almost everyone agreed were better, did happen to always be on that page. And for the most part they still are.

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    Rhoads [legacy]
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    25 October 2008 06:16:07

    To be sincere, if it were by me I would have removed Top comments/Ratings a long time ago since they have no point and serve no purpose but filling Nicuramar's hard disk with crappy comments/ratings from people trying to get to the 'top' of those lists ;)

    Where is vermond nowadays anyway? Haven't seem him in ages!

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    Aryl [legacy]
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    25 October 2008 00:24:05

    Where was I whining? I was providing further information in the context of Hirgail's discussion. Peace friend! Cease thy hostilities!

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    Brubaker [legacy]
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    24 October 2008 21:59:37

    fun comment:)

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    24 October 2008 21:57:42

    Boo hoo, I am always singled out, I don't know why, everyone is out to get me. Please, Rhoads, understand I am a GOOD guy. I NEVER did anything wrong ever. I promise, now please change the rules to suit me exactly! PLUEASE, I AM NICE. RAVATHIR IS NO LONGER MY FRIEND. I NEVER RATE RONNGLY?!

    Seriously dude, STFU and quit fucking whining.

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    Fernando [legacy]
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    24 October 2008 21:48:23

    Its effects were 'ex nunc' not 'ex tunc'.

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    Aryl [legacy]
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    24 October 2008 20:37:18

    The point is that it was changed after only I was selectively punished. Brubaker had 2 accounts banned, and at the time, all of mine were. I'm not trying to cause a stir.

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    Rhoads [legacy]
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    24 October 2008 18:14:08

    Oh shut the fuck up Aryl :P

    Vermond did a rules survey quite some time months ago which ended up with some rules being changed. Including caring about rates or posting for others :P

    Stop trying to create a stir for something that was changed already :)

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    Trescothik [legacy]
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    24 October 2008 05:19:24

    The only reason the Bulgarians voted down Vildoran's log is because they know he's thrice the player any of them have ever been combined.

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    Myrddin [legacy]
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    24 October 2008 02:04:43

    Good pick Formid, that log has been my favourite for years, and one of the first I ever read.

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    24 October 2008 00:27:33

    Miroth, I thought Urban's first line read:

    miroth was born from the piss of hatred :p

    lol :(

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    Aryl [legacy]
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    24 October 2008 00:16:43

    Vermond banned 9 of my 11 accounts on this page because I rated like 3 of my own logs with alts to counter Brubaker from doing the same thing. Recently Duncan went around and changed the top 20 list because he has a psychopathic hatred toward me. I don't give a shit about that list anymore though, I post(ed) my logs for the entertainment of everyone else, the illusion that the system was fair and an accurate representation of content has long ago faded. Let's also remember Vermond removing my top 20 log that had been there for almost 2 years because of this 'rating altering' phenomenon, without touching any of the other dozen logs on the list that other people fucked with. When's everyone going to grow up?

    Go ahead and flame me, this was fodder for Hirgail's pleasure.

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    Mordhred [legacy]
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    23 October 2008 22:31:48

    Make it so once a thread closes, you can't rate the corresponding log anymore.

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    Miroth [legacy]
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    23 October 2008 20:46:14

    Urban, that's the best description of me I've ever read. If I ever do anything worthy of getting a legend, I want that to be it. <3

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    Azhag [legacy]
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    23 October 2008 18:00:52

    You're funny.

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    23 October 2008 17:47:36

    Are you going to be actively posting with Serafina now? I had left this one unignored because you seemed to be forwarding posts from people I like on it...

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    Serafina [legacy]
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    23 October 2008 17:17:26

    Stupid logpage breakers.

    I got my SAT results today :/

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 18:25:48

    Also, I can't help but notice that you're not all rushing to downvote the Bulgarian's logs! Even if internet injustice doesn't make you livid with rage and anger, at least do it for the looks on their emoticons when they wake up to find all of their precious logs have been taken off the top 20 list.

    Go on, do it for the lulz.

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 18:19:30

    I'd like to stay one, which means they can never know what I did here...

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    Kozlodoev [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 18:15:29

    So, are you a goon, Hirgail? You should get the SA guys to play, that will be a catastrophe of epic proportions.

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 18:04:48

    Well, there's that point of view Koz and it's a valid one. I, however, am of the opinion that they were just being fags.

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    Kozlodoev [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 18:02:58

    stfu, Hirgail, they were just valiantly battling the other idiots who rated it too low! (like maybe with a 4)

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 17:50:07

    As does this one...Christ this is embarassing to see.

    http://logs.dyndns.dk/rate.php/10380

    me/tortuga

    Date: 25. May, 2006, poster: Khulzder, type: Player Kill

    Aeldor 6 Duncan 6 Tlaloc 6

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 17:42:20

    This one needs some revisionary voting too!

    http://logs.dyndns.dk/rate.php/9970

    Adunazon

    Date: 10. Feb, 2006, poster: Core, type: Player Kill

    Dream 6 Winnetou 6

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    Etrius [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 17:29:44

    Obviously you care about ratings, Daywalker, if you've taken the time to log in the logpage accounts of long-gone characters so you can boost an average. :P

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 17:15:42

    Apparently you care a lot DW, since you are your buddies spent the time going around and altering log ratings to get your buddy's logs bumped up.

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    Formid [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 17:10:54

    I don't particularly care, in the Vildoran case your 1 made little to no difference. Personally, as I said, i don't rate logs unless there's something particularly outstanding in the log.

    I also don't rate because of who is involved in the log (at all), the log should stand out on its own not because of who is in it, you apparently think different and that any log of you dying should be rated 1, whereas any log of you killing someone should be rated 6.

    I also applied the same kind of rationing to me posting logs, which is why I posted 6 logs in total and they're mostly interesting (to me anyways). Just gone through them, 2 of them aren't that interesting unless you know the circumstances or the people (Kalas had been a pain to ER's at the time and pretty much unkillable to us for a while, Boffo was just annoying as hell), one of them (Arawn) isn't a particularly great log, but it was midly entertaining to see an old timer fall and the conversation and timing of his last comment was pretty cool. Whereas you have posted many logs, at least 3/4 of which are either bangs or nothing at all, purely to put yourself on the Top Posters page, your brother is even worse. There is one log I regret not having saved, and it was myself taking on a 5 man BKD party (I was specifically after 1 person in it), killing my target and looting 2 uniques from his corpse.

    Basically, you appear to like masturbating in public. I prefer either being entertained, or entertaining people.

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    Daywalker [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 16:54:52

    Haha, since when do you care who votes with 1 and who with 6? Its not the logs popularity that matters. Its whats happening that does.

    And as I can see there is nothing but noobs around and nobody is doing anything worth posting.

    Keep on rotting and flaming on comments...

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    Formid [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 16:25:34

    The grapes were specially coded, Goober got nuked shortly afterwards (and I believe an ainur also).

    But the sheer length of time Adunazon stood up in that log, on his own (and the amount of damage he did), before the others came to help was impressive.

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    Serafina [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 16:24:05

    Dude! I want some grapes!

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    Formid [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 16:15:10

    I don't generally vote, and I dislike logging into the logpage on more than one character (I do have several accounts, but I can never be bothered, had at least one warnings about that), however I have gone and voted on the Vildoran log since I do think thats the kind of log which does make the log site.

    Admittedly he was prepared, but, well, see the log for yourselves, it is rightful in its place next to Spike dividing and conquering.

    In fact, going through all the top 5 logs on that page, the only one I don't agree with its position is the Alkath one (never was a big bang fan and doesn't show much from either side tbh).

    The other 4 logs all show either one person standing up vs multiple attackers, or one person going up against someone with superior equipment.

    In fact there's one log I'd like people to go and look at again, as it seems to have been knocked off there and I think it does deserve to be on the all time top 20.

    http://logs.dyndns.dk/viewer.php/3114

    That shows one person not only standing up vs someone with better equipment, it shows him standing up vs someone who cheated (via ainur methods) and still winning).

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 16:13:29

    Shut up Galanin! That isn't important now. What matters now is this major controversy. Get on the bandwagon or get run over by it!

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    Galadin [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 16:09:30

    Why so Shabba?

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 16:01:05

    To right this wrong. You all need to change your votes and then revote every log of theirs that ever pops up on a top list with a 1 on all your characters!

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 15:59:36

    You'll find Brubaker, Daywalker, Skyman and Duncan have gone through a lot of logs and rated it 1 with multiple characters:P

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    Formid [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 15:56:38

    Now, I don't like Vildoran, and I know why he voted this way, however. Spot the Outlier

    http://logs.dyndns.dk/rate.php/8646

    You may not like dying, but you have to admit Vildoran played this well.

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 15:53:09

    Azer, Grozin, Azhrarn, Fyng (7 vs 4)

    Date: 11. Oct, 2007, poster: Fyng, type: Player Kill

    Exhalev 6 Ill 6 Lmno 6 Nildnab 6

    Ha! Not anymore they're not.

    Yeah I know, lots of posts. Im bored.

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 15:46:28

    One can also only assume that while voting up their own logs, they're voting down other peoples.

    Thanks for telling us what we should like you fucking fags!

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 15:45:21

    Grymlar

    Date: 01. May, 2003, poster: Ruiniel, type: Player Kill

    Duncan 6 Tlaloc 6 Netwarrior 6 Rand 6 Skyman 6.

    Any others that I missed? I think this reeks of major controversy!

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 15:40:25

    So I just took a look at the All Time Top 20 list and I wondered why it keeps changing.

    Weellll, who would have thought that some deeply sad, deeply pathetic people that are deeply in need of online recognition would have been boosting up their own shitty logs with their alts just so they could have a log on the top 20 of this stupid sight.

    Congratulations, you're all losers!

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 14:15:58

    Bleh, this is boring and I can't use the SA forums at work! Somebody be entertaining!

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    Daywalker [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 08:36:40

    5 days no new logs... well done!

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    Shabba [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 08:28:57

    aaand Tevildo knows more about PoT's theme than its own members do. Pitiful. I just couldn't remember which it was because I knew it was complete shit either way :P

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    Tevildo [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 06:16:15

    Acquiring gear isn't PoT's theme; that's its purpose and modus operandi (and there's certainly nothing wrong with it). Its theme is about reuniting dwarves and elves by rebuilding a mannish town, which indeed makes no sense. No point in confusing the two issues.

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    Lobo [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 03:34:49

    I agree with Tireless' last post.

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    21 October 2008 02:32:00

    '

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 23:58:21

    Personally, I like Thorn, but I think smoky is a worthless piece of crap. Braze is just (sorry Thorn there is simply no way to explain it other than this) pure and simple, the definition of a mentally disturbed retard.

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    Shabba [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 21:27:12

    Galadin... You're a bit slow.

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    Fernando [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 19:29:17

    100!

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    Duncan [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 19:12:30

    Who's gonna read all 99 comments?

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    Galadin [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 18:11:21

    How did i miss the point mordhred?

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    Myrddin [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 15:07:56

    I had no doubt the content came from Thorn, I had it in quotation because the post itself wasn't his.

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    Azhag [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 15:03:54

    *shrug* the same thing is posted on PoT guildboard by thorn, so yeah, it actually is Thorn's.

    Thank you for your skepticism, it is greatly appreciated.

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    Myrddin [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 15:02:36

    Took the blame for the typo in 'Thorn''s post, and accidentally gave his own altinfo.

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    Shabba [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 09:36:45

    Did Transvestite say something really really stupid or pointless? I'm going to assume so.

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    Azhag [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 08:02:30

    Bah wrong char. Whatever. Azhag = Serafina, if anybody didn't already know.

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    Azhag [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 08:00:42

    Typographical error on my part (not thorn's), should read:

    'As for the charming post that PoT is full of arda's leftover retards, spare a thought for the multi-guild typists that may like you a little less for that remark.'

    The meaning was fairly obvious, however.

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 06:30:52

    Please Thorn... translate this into English?

    'As for the charming post that PoT is full of arda's leftover retards, spare a thought for the multi-guild typists that make like you a little less for that remark.'

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    Urban [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 05:37:09

    miroth was born from the pits of hatred :p

    he has no heart

    he feeds on newborn babies

    he loves to hate

    he hates to love

    he's a prick!

    <3

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 05:14:54

    Rau, you know that even during the war and even though we were on other sides I always liked you. You're not the best at anything, really, but you're a good natured guy, and that counts for more than just about anything in a setting like this. Even if we're virtually never on the same side of... well, anything, I still appreciate that you're around.

    I'm sorry you think so little of me, Miroth. Knowing what (little) I do of you I doubt there's really any point to seeking the cause of your dislike and addressing it, but I'm sorry that I've slighted you or behaved in a manner you consider unacceptable. I disagree with your evaluation of my ability to contribute to a guild for a number of reasons, but you are entitled to your opinion.

    As for Galadin... Listen to Mordhred.

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    Rau [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 03:20:30

    @ Tireless.

    'Did Durmanhoth cause it by assisting Smoky in becoming a bastard (I didn't know it before it was in Durmanhoth, but I'd like to think that nobody starts out that bad)?'

    I've known Smoky for probably the last 4 years. It's kind of amazing how differently we act, seeing as we both went through Durmanhoth at the same time.

    Smoky goes out of his/her way to piss people off and act like a bastard, I go out of my way to try and calm people down, and not piss people off.

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    Delvar [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 00:24:48

    other PoT members have also died because of Braze's actions, you forgot that tireless!

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    Mordhred [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 00:23:11

    You completely missed the point. :P

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    Galadin [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 00:12:41

    Mordhred, tell me who that friend of yours is so i can ask him, i don't believe thorn ever would threaten anyone out of the guild for something like that, maybe give a warning, but not kick them out as you say.

    I can't imagine thorn approach someone and say, hey, you are going to be kicked out the guild because you have broken our kr's

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    Mordhred [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 00:05:15

    Once upon a time, PoT's GM was Anguss. What else is needed to say?

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    Shabba [legacy]
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    20 October 2008 00:01:44

    I bet PoT would admit ERs if they could actually reach the guildhall. Also what kind of sad reason is that? So what if they supply gear to both sides. Supplying gear only for FRs or only for ERs, oh my god such a HUGE difference.

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    Mordhred [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 23:57:24

    On a side note about how PoT application system works, I will tell you a little story:

    One of my friends applied to it a few months ago. Then he got busy with rl and was away from the mud for a month or so. He came back to play one day, started killing random stuff just to have some fun. Suddenly, the PoT GM sends him a tell, asking him to turn the guild comm on, and welcoming him into the guild. Apparently, he had been admited while he was away. Few minutes later, the GM approaches my friend again, telling him he would be kicked out of the guild, because he had just inflicted a dozen KRs by killing the random npcs, when he didn't even know he was in the guild.

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    Mordhred [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 23:52:02

    Galadin, please stop commenting, or soon you will become the 'Belial' of the week.

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    Galadin [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 23:16:04

    Megs provides gear for everyone, they have even some evil races in their guild, PoT only provides gear for fr's, and they wouldn't accept an er among their ranks

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    Shabba [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 23:08:28

    Of course you could try to argue you want to preserve it's memory or some shit but it doesn't change the fact it both sounds really stupid and was just an excuse to have a guild with the acronym of pot.

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    Shabba [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 23:07:05

    Preserve means you want to keep it in the state of ruin it's currently in. Megs is a merc guild. I don't care if one guild might do their job a lot better than the other, Megs was first, you guys are just a sad rip off.

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    Galadin [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 22:41:54

    Please explain that shabba?

    The name is just fine, we try to preserve tharbad, to rebuilt it, so i don't see why 'Preservers of Tharbad' is bad.

    Our theme is to provide the free races of arda with weapons and armour, why is that a shitty theme?

    I will say, our name is just fine for what we are doing and our theme is just fine for what we are doing.

    And you are right, we've succeeded with that, to find a name that suits us, succeed, a theme that suits us, succeed.

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    Shabba [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 21:00:31

    PoT has tried to be a guild with a shitty theme and horrible name, and succeeded.

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    Miroth [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 20:43:44

    Would have been the same cost of retaining morons like you. You're no more desirable to a guild than Smoky or Braze.

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 19:27:35

    There's a causation argument brewing in Thorn's post:

    Did Beiramar and I cause PoT to be a worse place by sneaking in and causing a bit of trouble?

    Did Thorn cause it by letting in people like us?

    Did Thorn cause it by letting in people who were so... Smokyish and Brazesque that people like Beiramar and I wanted to come in and kill them?

    Did Smoky and Braze cause it by joining in the first place?

    Did Durmanhoth cause it by assisting Smoky in becoming a bastard (I didn't know it before it was in Durmanhoth, but I'd like to think that nobody starts out that bad)?

    Look at where these sorts of things happen and their frequency distribution. Look at the targets. Sneaking someone into a guild is not hard. Having a target in the guild who has angered someone enough that they feel it's worthwhile to put forth the time and energy to actually do is not common.

    Look at your own guild before you start condemning how others react to it. Braze, the root of most of Arda's enmity towards PoT, is suspended (AGAIN). Smoky is less popular than the Herks. Aledukine, once one of your solid members, apparently left because... he was sick of Braze's bullshit.

    Look at the cost of retaining members like Smoky and Braze.

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    Serafina [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 17:02:42

    Posting for Thorn, who doesn't have a logpage account yet.

    Something to think about.

    To all those who have considered betraying PoT, or other guilds, especially in such a public forum, consider your achievements.

    Any GM worth his or her salt will look at these logs and learn from and respond to them as if they were the ones betrayed. They will revisit their security, tighten their application procedures, and pay more attention to potential spies. PoT certainly will. Other than a hilarious log of the few minutes of chaos caused by their actions, the traitors leave behind a general environment that is somewhat less accommodating than it was before.

    PoT has tried to be a place where experienced players can help newer players by questing equipment for the log priced shop and assisting lower levels with advice and quest mentorship. A place where newer players can develop their characters and hopefully help others as they progress and learn more of Arda. We cannot do this if we are forced into a state of paranoia.

    As for the charming post that PoT is full of arda's leftover retards, spare a thought for the multi-guild typists that make like you a little less for that remark.

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    Azhag [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 16:11:45

    Brubaker, the guy keeps his friend list in the logs :P He clearly doesn't edit much.

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    Galadin [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 14:08:28

    The only thing he said was that he didn't want you in his GH.

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    Galadin [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 14:08:11

    I wouldn't consider it whining.

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    Brubaker [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 13:38:55

    maybe khaine just removed shit like, tell alexa list, news new x3 etc. etc. just to don't bore us?

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    Trescothik [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 13:18:30

    I'm disappointed, the only one to show up is Ketan? Fucking comment Nogo, I know you troll this board.

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    Myrddin [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 08:04:00

    Shit, Khaine was on msn before this?

    Nuke/Hardban plz.

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    Azhag [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 05:51:48

    Post another goodbye log Tireless. Kthxbie

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 04:00:35

    Some backstory: Mayhem and I had just spent several hours getting claim for Carack Amarth and Radiant set, but no BKD were available to help us finish either and Mayhem had to log off. I was idling in BKD's bar waiting for enough backup to show up that we could finish the quests when Berum threw me out of the guild (with 4/6 keys on me -- the other 2 were in BKD's armoury -- and with Radiant pieces). This is what he calls whining like a bitch:

    tellhist berum

    Tell history:

    [17:39] You told Berum: Excuse me?

    You tell Berum: Ok, so I was invited into that hall by Mayhem at the bidding of Josi, and was invited to have as much alcohol as I wanted by Stobhach... so if you're kicking me out, you're saying you know better than all of them. Is this the case?

    You tell Berum: (Keeping in mind that I still have your guild's claim on CA and radiant set)

    Berum tells you: i don't want you in my guildhall. and until my ability to invite/uninvite is removed, i'll use it how i see fit. i don't give a shit what you have on you.

    tell berum You're not representing your guild or its interests very well.

    Berum is ignoring you.

    I suppose you could consider this whining like a bitch.

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    Lobo [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 02:49:58

    tuareg is on a loop error because of this: do drop attitude,drop hate,40improve manners,get life,get laid,quit T2T

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    Ketan [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 02:40:36

    Speaking of Tuareg, does anyone know what he's up to these days? Did he get arrested and put in jail for the inevitable hate crimes we all know he's likely to commit?

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    Miroth [legacy]
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    19 October 2008 00:39:13

    Tireless is a tool. I enjoyed booting him out of our guild bar and watching him whine like a bitch.

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    Galadin [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 22:40:04

    The thing tireless did is a bit wanna be kozlodoev

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    Etrius [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 21:53:23

    Why wouldn't it help? This doesn't happen to every other Guild twice in a month.

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    Azhag [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 21:03:47

    Give GM's IP address powers :P

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    Exley [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 20:58:16

    As a side note, I wonder if this is how you nerds would all behave if given this type of power and responsibility in the real world. It would be an interesting experiment, akin to giving dirt-poor people a bunch of money and seeing what would happen.

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    Exley [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 20:54:07

    When I was warlord of AotWU, we were infiltrated several times by people who gained my trust then betrayed it by stealing the vault gold, looting the armoury, etc. It's not fun/cool/funny when you're on the receiving end of this type of thing.

    That being said, I don't know much about how PoT operates now, but when I was MUDing regularly they were a decent guild with honorable leaders and members. Tireless infiltrating the guild to kill a guild-rat member is one thing; people infiltrating the guild to destroy it from within is another. Hirgail may be correct when he says PoT needs a better screening process, but seeing how anyone can fake an online persona, that wouldn't help much IMO.

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    Miroth [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 20:17:03

    haha, sunshine.

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    Trescothik [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 20:15:36

    They were funny as man. Tarn was just an idiot, but really good at baiting Sunshine, and Deadlok's wannabe gangsta shit was hilarious.

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    Miroth [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 20:11:38

    tarn and deadlok? come on :P

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    Trescothik [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 19:44:53

    Man the log page used to be so much cooler when people like Avaar, Nogothrim, Sigmund, Tarn, Deadlok, Vallejo, Mizrahi, Ketan etc commented. I recommend going back through the old logs to some of the comment sections, Nogothrim especially is a crack up.

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    Azkur [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 19:17:20

    why didn't you edit your password out man????

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    Azhag [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 15:57:31

    THE FIRST COMMAND HE TYPES IS THE STEAL TRIGGER.

    Obviously he was on an alt, or msn, etc.

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    Galadin [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 15:14:46

    I agree that PoT should be more strickt about who they let in, but again, they almost let anybody in because they're friendly.

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    Mordhred [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 15:04:53

    First, what herks were doing to 'hurt' the mud was simply being herks. It has nothing to do with multiplaying or whatever other rule breaking they might have done.

    Second, the clear difference between this log and the 'herk bullshit', as you might call it, is the people it affects. They're not just random innocent and unaware newbies. They're innocent and unaware newbies who talk shit all the time and everyone loves to make fun of them. Just notice how Josi came out unscathed. I think it proves the point.

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 14:17:00

    R_I_diculously h_Y_pocritical.

    Fuck.

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    Myrddin [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 10:00:15

    If Tireless is the lord of morons, shouldn't you be paying him homage?

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 09:45:58

    Symric, you are a complete moron:

    Date: 17. Oct, 2008, 3:16:45 By: Pounder

    But come on Waste, you gotta laugh at the stuff that happened after the theft. :|

    I don't care how long a thief is online its not my business to know whether his alt was online or not. In this log it shows only ONE player. Honestly, lol, this is a completely circular argument with you and well, we won't get into it. Keep hugging bro, eventually you'll get to a set of balls you like to hold on to real tight.

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    Jakar [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 07:10:28

    You mean I will. I'm far more of an asshole than Korbin. Bitch is my bitch.

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    Miroth [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 06:17:27

    it's so hard pretending to be a completely smashed asshole on the comm when you're commbanned.

    korbin, you'll have to stand in while i'm gone.

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    Azhag [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 05:49:22

    Aww, I thought we were friends, Symric :(

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 05:10:04

    '...rediculously hipocrytical...'

    FUCK YOU.

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    Symric [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 04:42:55

    I think im pretty much done reading the log page, I just want to state a fact that its rediculously hipocrytical that people like Mordhred and Pounder think this log is gold and hilarious...When this is the same bullshit that they said was hurting the mud when the herks were doing it. Logging off one char and on another and doing shit like this.

    On a side note, personally I thought this log was hilarious. And any conversation with Braze or someone like Smoky is always going to be funny. I killed Braze once for a contract and for a straight hour he threatened me, but his threats made me laugh so much that I couldn't even ignore him.

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    Hirgail [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 02:54:20

    Well hey POT, here's a novel idea: Have a bit more of a discriminating application process.

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 02:52:25

    Or sanity, or brains, or sense, or just about anything that is good?

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    Malorian [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 02:49:27

    It wasn't pathetic of Tireless, it was an accepted loss for PoT; one (even a few) deaths isn't that much, and that's what you get when you let in almost anyone with no time or screening.

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    Galadin [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 02:45:07

    yeah, tireless, i know you were in PoT and it was pathetic what you did

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    18 October 2008 00:59:41

    One of the best ways in the old days (providing people didn't run finds on you) was to sit in a nearby room and trigger the full travel and pickup as a mud trigger never giving them a chance to trigger to steal from you because you wielded/wore. There were other ways that were awesome but overall it was all related to risk :P

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    Waste [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 22:17:19

    Its funny, but we all been on both ends of this sort of incidents so you gotta feel for those who got nicked.. In my whole time mudding, i never figured a solid way to being safely able to pickup an item from the auctioneer. Even with sheriffs, the thieves always had the edge.. And naturally, thieves would act all cocky about being able to type the trigger picks todo steal item from someone, or go the extra fancy step of bypassing emotes in their triggers..not much skill..still entertaining when a double steal occurs:p

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    Miroth [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 20:06:19

    [new] Date: 17. Oct, 2008, 7:31:19 By: Saurus

    I liked log, I agree with Waste, on EoTW mud we had rule, that we couldnt relogin in 15-20 mins, and it worked pretty well against players who logs with prof/char who suited their situation... not a perfect rule, but I think better then nothing

    horse shit. i played eotw, nowhere near as much as you, but still played over the course of 2 or 3 years. i switched chars back and forth based on what i wanted to play at the time with no issues. You did the same with your alts. I saw you. So did Demandred and many of the other players that played on both muds.

    [new] Date: 17. Oct, 2008, 9:52:56 By: Trescothik

    Miroth is a farking faggot. lolz.

    Tru dat. You're just mad because I still have sex with both you and Greg. Don't worry, there's plenty of Crousey to go around.

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    Azhag [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 18:55:12

    So speaketh Tireless, lord of the morons.

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 18:29:46

    It's been idea reported, petitioned, and I believe prop'd, and got shot down.

    New admin, though, so maybe they'll take another look at it.

    And Galadin, I spent 3 months in PoT just recently... and there are a few people in it that _are not_ retards. But only a few. Unfortunately, Beiramar owes loyalty to one of the few people with redeeming attributes in the guild and was thus unable to bring himself to do any of the things I wanted him to do.

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    Galadin [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 17:32:30

    idea report that Tevildo

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    Tevildo [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 17:00:49

    A login delay between chars would be annoying (as there are perfectly legitimate reasons to switch quickly--checking your mails, for example), and circumventable. It'd be much better if there was just an automatic block on attacking people, Pstealing, and running finds (and maybe a couple of other offensive actions) for the first few (two?) minutes of being logged in as each.

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    Khaine [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 16:58:36

    12 + 14 = 26 hours a day Azhag spends being smart on the net.

    And I don't think my bro is visiting Poland so soon. He's too dumb and probably won't manage to pass his tests. He's probably better off mudding anyways. Don't worry though, I will pay homage to you and make him buy me some beer.

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    Brubaker [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 16:15:10

    Anyway Khaine, when you will visit Poland with your bro? Cause your bro owes me beer, remind him about that!

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    Jakar [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 15:33:50

    They are in the same program, fuckwad.

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    Azhag [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 15:27:21

    Exspecially considering how you and your brother are both in hibernation for 12days and 12hrs now.

    Mordhred the dwarf Crime Lord (Demonic)

    In hibernation for another 47 days 14 hours 3 minutes 32 seconds

    Khaine the dunedain Mastermind (Amoral)

    In hibernation for another 47 days 14 hours 16 minutes 37 seconds

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    Azhag [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 15:19:12

    That's from about 2 weeks ago, while this log is about a month old...from 9/21, I believe.

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    Khaine [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 14:54:18

    This is from a few days ago, before Balzac got busted, and like 2 weeks after this log:

    Balzac told you: btw what did you do to that contract, got killed or paid it off?

    You told Balzac: paid off

    Balzac told you: thought so

    Damn he's good at figuring out things :P

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    Khaine [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 14:50:59

    Hey, I finally got an account here. Sorry for not posting the previous logs myself. For those of you who don't know yet, Mordhred is my older brother who got me into playing this, and we play from the same shitty pc :(

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    Galadin [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 11:32:40

    And btw, i like to think that none in PoT are retards, well except a few people

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    Galadin [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 11:15:16

    I like to think that i'm not a retard.

    And i am in PoT, and what Beiramar did is horrible.

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    Trescothik [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 09:52:56

    Miroth is a farking faggot. lolz.

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    Myrddin [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 09:52:32

    I'd say MSN is at least as likely as an alt. Innocent until proven guilty.

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    Shabba [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 09:12:23

    http://spikedhumor.com/articles/165815/Insane-Rendition-of-The-Final-Countdown.html

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    Norin [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 08:09:33

    Smoky tells you: back now or die

    Best part of the log. :)

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    Shabba [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 07:49:02

    And it's not like all the herks and whoever aren't always on skype together :P

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    Shabba [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 07:48:42

    Or he wasn't online at all and was just on MSN or something.

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    Tash [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 07:47:00

    '(-HP:210 EP:210-)<> trigger Thorr picks todo si globe thorr

    The next time you see 'Thorr picks', you will do: 'si globe thorr'.'

    I think this says he was logged on another character, Mordhred. Unless he takes random guesses as to what's on auction and who won it without checking who is on or telling an auctioneer list first.

    It's probably MP but it's not like anybody really cares about this type.

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    Trescothik [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 07:46:38

    Restrictions on being able to log your char in when you want? As Bakling would say, that's idioticic. Thieves are only worth logging in 3 times a mud day.

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    Saurus [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 07:31:19

    I liked log, I agree with Waste, on EoTW mud we had rule, that we couldnt relogin in 15-20 mins, and it worked pretty well against players who logs with prof/char who suited their situation... not a perfect rule, but I think better then nothing

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    Azhag [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 06:12:01

    face to bowls isn't as catchy as ass to mouth.

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    Malorian [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 06:05:28

    I'm sorry for stooping to Azhag's level, but I couldn't resist :P

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    Malorian [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 06:05:19

    There are electric chainsaws (but they don't use batteries). You obviously didn't get my secret ninjotic (omg, ninjas?! in Arda!? Join the new secret-agent style clan about to mark its place on the face of the bowels of Arda. Levels 5 and above, all races accepted. Contact Carver for more detail) implication: electric chainsaws are less powerful than gas-operated chainsaws, making it obvious that your penis is less powerful than real penises, and, especially without 100-feet power cords, utterly useless compared to superhatchetdick.

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    Malorian [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 05:47:57

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smoky

    And no, I did NOT write that :P

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    Mordhred [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 03:29:39

    Nowhere in the log it is said that Khaine switched between chars. That is nothing but a quick assumption, but we can't tell for sure. And I agree that it should at least be considered bad etiquette, since it's not illegal.

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 03:16:45

    But come on Waste, you gotta laugh at the stuff that happened after the theft. :|

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    Waste [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 02:56:00

    Now there has to be some sort of boundries with the logging on... Fair enough if you have more than a character active, but to switch between chars just to do stuff is kinda iffy to say the least. Such problem existed for so long, and no one did anything about it... I always found it annoying that a couple of guys got nuked in the first ER outing, because they used to log on their ER type who, see whose on, then decide whether to do mordor or not, but then no such enforcement ever stood.. IT IS multiplaying if you ask me... no one is though:)

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    Pounder [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 00:32:28

    Now this shit, everyone, is a fucking thing of gold! Spectacular! :)

    And I can't help but feel for Thorr(sp?), he's got a guild of ardas leftover retards, after everyone picked all the servicable retards out of the retard group.

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    Tireless [legacy]
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    17 October 2008 00:09:15

    I like the Brazilians more every day :P

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    Miroth [legacy]
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    16 October 2008 22:42:48

    yeah, that's a real threat :P

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    Shabba [legacy]
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    16 October 2008 22:10:23

    oh no, SMOKY is after you!