

The Amruin High Council Room(n)
 Annadur the dunlending Mistress (Villainous)
 Garik the dunedain Master Ranger (Angelic)
 Hayduke the dunedain Wolf Spirit (Angelic)
 Andron the dunedain Weaponsmaster (Hand of Eru)
 Mimak the dwarf of the Lonely Mountain ([36mStonehead[0m Family)
 Elendur the dunedain Warlord (Angelic)
 Rolf the dwarf of the Lonely Mountain ([36mStonehead[0m Family)
 Turk the eorling [37mThird Marshal[0m of [37mthe Mark[0m
 Crusaderr the dunedain Wolf Spirit (Hand of Eru)
 Dorianna the dunlending Master Ranger (Angelic)
 Tiew the dwarf Knight (Angelic)
 Nichodemus the dunedain [31mNecromancer [0m[34m([0m[1;34mBlack Hand[0m)
 Viking the dwarf retired Soldier of Rohan
 Plow the dunedain Wolf Spirit (Hand of Eru)
 The High-Council vote box sits on the floor
 Elder Board [21 notes]

[1;32mPlow says: Welcome to the First Meeting of the Roleplaying Guilds of Arda.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: who would like to open the discussion[0m

[1;32mNichodemus hmms setting his forehead in wrinkles.[0m
[1;32mNichodemus raises his hand.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: you have the floor Nichodemus[0m

[1;32mNichodemus nods with [0m[31mcrimson[0m[1;32m eyes.[0m

[1;32mAndron listens.[0m

[1;32mNichodemus says: Respected guildmembers -[0m
[1;32mNichodemus says: Well all gather today in light of perhaps the greatest ability[0m
[1;32m     of all guilds, past and present.[0m
[1;32mNichodemus says: Roleplaying is a virtue, even today, though is less commonly[0m
[1;32m     found[0m
[1;32mNichodemus says: Thus is the basis of our meeting, I trust.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: exactly[0m

[1;32mNichodemus says: Ages ago, those who walked before me and mine, and you and[0m
[1;32m     yours, upheld their theme with the best roleplay possible.[0m

[1;32mNichodemus says: It was a way of life, a form of honor.[0m

[1;32mAnnadur raises an eyebrow.[0m

[1;32mNichodemus says: Today, if that was still the definition, there would be so few[0m
[1;32m     without honor.[0m

Duniv enters.

[1;32mNichodemus says: Personally, I feel that roleplaying is the most important[0m
[1;32m     aspect that any one person, guildless or not, can have.[0m

Morphiend enters.
Vanan enters.

[1;32mNichodemus says: Thus, it is in my opinion that such things must be restored, as[0m
[1;32m     they had been ages ago.[0m
[1;32mNichodemus says: Arda as we know it has grown lazy.[0m

[1;32mEMOTE:[0m-> Annadur raises her hand

[1;32mNichodemus nods with [0m[31mcrimson[0m[1;32m eyes at Annadur.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: Thankyou SoU. your comments are well noted by us all[0m

[1;32mAnnadur says: i would like to simply state my opinion on RP matters[0m

[1;32mTurk says: Lets hear the thoughts of Annadur[0m
[1;32mTurk says: you have the floor[0m

[1;32mViking raises his hand.[0m

[1;32mAnnadur says: speaking for the Corsairs we feel that what has been called RP[0m
[1;32m     and RP rules is in fact only about playability and keeping Arda fun for[0m
[1;32m     everyone[0m

[1;32mTurk says: a powerful statement[0m

[1;32mAnnadur says: RP is playing a role...i am a Corsair, therefore i play a[0m
[1;32m     Corsair...i would like to defy and see the blood of every ....well take[0m
[1;32m     KoDA for instance[0m
[1;32mAnnadur says: ATM[0m

[1;32mGarik smiles.[0m

[1;32mAnnadur says: the Corsairs are having a test case in RP with the NAoG[0m

[1;32mElendur grrs.[0m

[1;32mAndron chuckles.[0m

[1;32mAnnadur says: allowing us to fight more realistic wars[0m

[1;32mPlow says: I would like to ask to refrain from Emoting since it will[0m
[1;32m     reduce the spam level. Thank You for your cooperation.[0m

[1;32mAnnadur says: we do see importance of playability rules, but honestly i hope[0m
[1;32m     that for once we can really focus on playing a role as well[0m

[1;32mAnnadur says: thank you[0m

[1;32mTurk says: well said[0m
[1;32mTurk says: Viking you wish to add comments for the Amruin[0m
[1;32mTurk says: you have the floor[0m

[1;32mEMOTE:[0m-> Viking steps forward
[1;32mViking says: what in the past has been a problem, is that there seem to be[0m
[1;32m     some conception that roleplay only takes place in specific areas[0m
[1;32mViking says: ie, if the battle is not in dol guldur, edoras, or dol amroth,[0m
[1;32m     its not regarded as a roleplay fight[0m
[1;32mViking says: I find this to be wrong, whereever we meet and there is a[0m
[1;32m     chance to interact, it should be done in character, and in the same way[0m
[1;32m     that it would have been done in the 3 mentioned areas[0m

[1;32mDuniv raises his hand.[0m

[1;32mViking says: its very hard to roleplay with [0m[1;31msomeone [0m[1;32mif you dont know his or[0m
[1;32m     her motives. if you cant be sure he is going to battle fairly with you,[0m
[1;32m     or if he is gonna hunt you[0m

Trempk enters.
[1;32mTrempk winces just from the thought of it.[0m

[1;32mViking says: up through the years theres been a consent that the roleplaying[0m
[1;32m     guilds dont contract and pkill eachother, this has slipped lately and I[0m
[1;32m     believe it to be one of the reasons rp as a whole has degenerated[0m

You salute Trempk.

[1;32mViking says: thank, that will be all for now[0m
[1;32mEMOTE:[0mViking steps back

[1;32mDorianna raises her hand.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: Duniv of the SoU wishes to add comment[0m
[1;32mTurk says: you have the floor[0m

[1;32mDuniv says: I just want to second the comments made by Viking.[0m
[1;32mDuniv says: It's a shame that RP has been confined to combat.[0m

[1;32mAnnadur nods.[0m

[1;32mTurk nods grimly with the wisdom of many years in battle.[0m

[1;32mDuniv says: It's also very unfortunant that some view a player's RP ability[0m
[1;32m     solely on the basis of how they perform in combat.[0m
[1;32mDuniv says: I think it would be great for other RP circumstances to occur[0m
[1;32m     more often in order to give us non-warriors a chance.[0m

[1;32mAndron raises his hand.[0m

[1;32mTrempk gives Duniv a thumbs-up.[0m

[1;32mDuniv says: I certainly can't stand up to a warrior with a sapphire sword.[0m
[1;32mDuniv grins crookedly.[0m
[1;32mDuniv says: That's all.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: indeed[0m

Irun enters.

[1;32mTurk says: Andron of the KoDa please gives us the thoughts of your guild[0m

[1;32mIrun bows [0min the way of a [37mtrue [0mranger.

[1;32mCrusaderr says: erm wait[0m

[1;32mAndron smiles.[0m

[1;32mCrusaderr says: Dori raised her hand first[0m

[1;32mTurk says: my pardon[0m

[1;32mAndron says: Dorianna was first[0m

[1;32mTurk says: Dorianna please proceed[0m

[1;32mDorianna says: I'm curious as to the definition of "role play guild". It seems[0m
[1;32m     somewhat subjective from what I've seen here, but perhaps I am wrong. I'd[0m
[1;32m     like to know what criteria you're going on here. For example, the[0m
[1;32m     inclusion of Rimsilval but not Glorglas or Durmanhoth[0m

[1;32mDorianna says: No problem[0m

[1;32mTurk says: of course[0m
[1;32mTurk says: i will specify briefly[0m
[1;32mTurk says: You all here have classified yourselves as RP-guilds. I[0m
[1;32m     recieved one single flame mail from the mirdain for not being included[0m
[1;32mTurk says: I based RP guild on the premise that the majority of the guild[0m
[1;32m     has attempted some form of Roleplay during its existence[0m
[1;32mTurk says: as the Durmanhoth have made zero effort to support or deny[0m
[1;32m     claims of roleplay. they are not represented[0m
[1;32mTurk says: the guilds you see here are the guilds concerned and interested[0m
[1;32m     in making a difference to Roleplay in arda[0m

[1;32mDorianna says: And what is "role play"? Defined by player combat? How does one[0m
[1;32m     judge if a guild is role playing...for example, mirdain's theme as far as[0m
[1;32m     I can tell is to remian quiet and hidden, which they have. Who defines[0m
[1;32m     role play?[0m

[1;32mDorianna says: Not to be aggressive, i'm just curious[0m

[1;32mTurk says: i will address that very question in section 2 of this meeting[0m

[1;32mDorianna nods.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: anything else from the Valacircans?[0m

[1;32mCrusaderr says: well i'll say one thing[0m
[1;32mCrusaderr says: What partially hinders the efforts of RP is the fact that alot[0m
[1;32m     of guilds have members who are unwilling to cooperate with the laws[0m
[1;32mCrusaderr says: and when they break them there are no reprecussions[0m

[1;32mDorianna nods at Crusaderr.[0m

[1;32mCrusaderr says: there needs to be more involvement from the GMs for it to[0m
[1;32m     regain it's meaning[0m

Draugluin phases into reality.

[1;32mTurk says: well said![0m

[1;32mMimak tugs on his beard thoughtfully.[0m
[1;32mMimak raises his hand.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: I believe Andron speaks for the Knights of Dol Amroth next[0m
[1;32mTurk says: Andron you have the floor[0m

[1;32mAndron thanks Turk.[0m

[1;32mAndron says: First of all I want to thank the Riders of Rohan for this[0m
[1;32m     meeting. It is a great idea.[0m
[1;32mAndron says: From our point of view RP is not based only on combat. It[0m
[1;32m     should go beyond that[0m
[1;32mAndron says: And here is the first problem I want to mention[0m
[1;32mAndron says: Playing this mud is more and more reduced to combat, there are[0m
[1;32m     no other interactions or if there are some they are only very frequently[0m

Adunazon enters.

[1;32mNichodemus humbly kneels before Adunazon.[0m

[1;31mYou hear a footstep nearby.[0m
[1;31mAnonymous figure [0m[1;32mchortles like an ass.[0m
[1;31mAnonymous figure [0m[1;32msays: hey hey hey[0m
[1;31mYou hear a footstep nearby.[0m

[1;32mTrempk hmms.[0m

[1;32mIrun arcs a curious eyebrow.[0m

[1;32mAndron says: thus our RP depends also more and more on the will of other[0m
[1;32m     players to RP and not to report us[0m

[1;32mAndron says: seeing it from this point we will stand behind each effort from[0m
[1;32m     players and coders to make RP possible...[0m

Draugluin gets creative and makes the idlef++ (idle finder).

[1;32mNichodemus smirks in amusement.[0m

You arc a curious eyebrow.

[1;32mAndron says: as it was said before, RP should not be reduced to certain[0m
[1;32m     areas, so there have to be rules whcih will be respected by each player.[0m
[1;32mAndron says: Nobody has to RP but everybody should respect it when someone[0m
[1;32m     does.[0m
[1;32mAndron says: Thank you, thats all[0m
[1;32mAndron bows suavely.[0m

[1;32mPlow says: I would like to ask again to refrain from Emoting thus reducing[0m
[1;32m     the spam level, and if you wish to talk please raise your hand. Thank you[0m
[1;32m     for your cooperation.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: well said[0m
[1;32mTurk says: Mimak of the BKD, you have the floor[0m

[1;32mMimak nods.[0m
[1;32mMimak says: I'd like to adress a few comments at Andron's words.[0m
[1;32mMimak says: Especially about his views on Roleplay. As I see it Roleplay[0m
[1;32m     can be rougly cut into 2 situations. One which involves combat and one[0m
[1;32m     which doesnt.[0m

[1;32mAndron agrees with Mimak wholeheartedly.[0m

[1;32mMimak says: The defend/attack situations are hard to control.[0m

[1;32mAdunazon raises his hand.[0m

[1;32mMimak says: They often involve people not from guilds and can turn into a[0m
[1;32m     frustration more then actualy roleplaying fun.[0m
[1;32mMimak says: The other situation, thus not combat-minded, is something I[0m
[1;32m     personally like a lot.[0m

[1;32mPlow raises an eyebrow.[0m

[1;32mMimak says: That is, actually playing dwarf (in my case) when there is no[0m
[1;32m     combat involved.[0m

[1;32mPlow raises his hand.[0m

[1;32mMimak says: I see a lack in the current population especially here. It[0m
[1;32m     practically only see roleplay at combat grounds, and not between those[0m
[1;32m     times.[0m
[1;32mMimak says: I think we have to focus a lot more on non-combat  roleplay.[0m
[1;32m     That is, those who are more experienced in Roleplay from guilds, teaching[0m
[1;32m     the younger ones.[0m
[1;32mMimak says: combat roleplay is then also easier to understand, and to be[0m
[1;32m     kept honorable.[0m
[1;32mMimak tugs on his beard thoughtfully.[0m
[1;32mMimak says: That is all.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: thankyou BKD[0m
[1;32mTurk says: Adunazon you have final comments on this topic speaking for SoU[0m

[1;32mAdunazon says: Thank you.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: then we will move on[0m

[1;32mAdunazon says: I'd like to address Mimak's comment on controlling the combat[0m
[1;32m     side of RP.[0m
[1;32mAdunazon says: A few days ago.. I spent awhile speaking with Hochopepa of the[0m
[1;32m     Knights and Wyngel of the Corsairs.[0m
[1;32mAdunazon says: It was suggested that any combative RPing to be done should be[0m
[1;32m     forewarned in an RP style..[0m
[1;32mAdunazon says: It begins both parties on a level field as far as health,[0m
[1;32m     healing, etc.[0m
[1;32mAdunazon says: And would, in fact, be more thematic because the PC defenders[0m
[1;32m     of certain areas would be the first line of defenses.[0m

Relg enters.
[1;32mRelg bows as a dwarf of the Lonely Mountain.[0m

[1;32mAdunazon says: While I have my reservations on whether or not this would work[0m
[1;32m     at all times, it is a good idea, and a good way to keep OOC relations[0m
[1;32m     from degenerating while still RPing fierce enemies.[0m
[1;32mAdunazon says: We the SoU have been putting a strong focus on an honorable[0m
[1;32m     style of RP as of late..[0m
[1;32mAdunazon says: And are trying to "lead by example" for the younger ones, who[0m
[1;32m     at times are quite bloodthirsty.[0m
[1;32mAdunazon says: In closing, RP in general is something that will only increase[0m
[1;32m     if the desire is present, and the desire will exist if RPing is done[0m
[1;32m     well.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: well spoken[0m

[1;32mAndron nods.[0m

[1;32mAdunazon says: It is something that we all must work towards if there is any[0m
[1;32m     hope of saving what, in my opinion, makes this mud great.[0m
[1;32mAdunazon bows swiftly, his dark cape draping about him.[0m

Swamp enters.

[1;32mTurk says: Alright gentlemen and ladies, the second part of this meeting[0m
[1;32m     is what I REALLY called you all here for[0m

[1;32mSwamp says: woo[0m

[1;32mTurk says: im going to make a couple short statements[0m

[1;32mSwamp bows to Elendur with a warrior style.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: I want you all to signal your agreement by noding or[0m
[1;32m     disagreement by shaking[0m

[1;32mElendur gracefully returns the bow with an even lower bow.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: 1) All of us here value Roleplay and do not want to see it die[0m
[1;32m     in Arda ?[0m

[1;32mNichodemus nods with [0m[31mcrimson[0m[1;32m eyes.[0m
[1;32mGarik nods.[0m
[1;32mAndron nods.[0m
[1;32mDuniv nods firmly.[0m
[1;32mElendur nods.[0m
[1;32mViking nods.[0m
[1;32mVanan nods.[0m
[1;32mMimak says: Aye![0m
[1;32mIrun nods quickly.[0m
[1;32mMorphiend nods.[0m
[1;32mPlow nods with the wisdom of the [0m[1;34mNumenor[0m[1;32m.[0m
[1;32mRelg nods.[0m
[1;32mSwamp nods.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: 2) All of us here have all kinds of ideas on how to improve RP[0m
[1;32m     and what some of the problems with it are?[0m

[1;32mNichodemus nods with [0m[31mcrimson[0m[1;32m eyes.[0m
[1;32mViking nods.[0m
[1;32mGarik nods.[0m
[1;32mAndron nods.[0m
[1;32mPlow nods with the wisdom of the [0m[1;34mNumenor[0m[1;32m.[0m
[1;32mMimak nods.[0m
[1;32mElendur nods.[0m
You nod.
[1;32mMorphiend nods.[0m
[1;32mDuniv nods firmly.[0m
[1;32mVanan nods.[0m
[1;32mSwamp nods.[0m
[1;32mAnnadur nods.[0m
[1;32mIrun nods quickly.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: 3rd) All of us here want to make a positive contribution to[0m
[1;32m     Roleplaying in Arda[0m

[1;32mNichodemus nods with [0m[31mcrimson[0m[1;32m eyes.[0m
[1;32mDuniv nods firmly.[0m
[1;32mGarik nods.[0m
[1;32mPlow nods with the wisdom of the [0m[1;34mNumenor[0m[1;32m.[0m
[1;32mElendur nods.[0m
[1;32mMimak nods.[0m
[1;32mViking nods.[0m
[1;32mMorphiend nods.[0m
[1;32mAnnadur says: absolutely[0m
You nod.

[1;32mTurk says: wow look at that we are unanimous![0m

[1;32mIrun nods quickly.[0m
[1;32mAndron nods.[0m
[1;32mMimak grins with a semi-sober look in his eyes.[0m
[1;32mSwamp nods.[0m
[1;32mRelg nods.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: which brings me to the the purpose behind this meeting..[0m

Santao enters.

[1;32mSantao ohs interestedly.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: The formation of a "Roleplaying Council".  We would take a[0m
[1;32m     representative from each of the guilds here, and meet say maybe twice a[0m
[1;32m     month and discuss  cases on roleplaying and bring different issues to the[0m
[1;32m     table[0m

Irun leaves north.

[1;32mAndron says: Good idea![0m

[1;32mTurk says: we would all have a chance to speak and listen to whats going[0m
[1;32m     on in the world of roleplay[0m
[1;32mTurk says: we could tackle the really hard issues like What is roleplaying[0m
[1;32m     what isnt! and how can we make universal rules of RP[0m
[1;32mTurk says: stuff like that[0m

[1;32mDorianna raises her hand.[0m

[1;32mNichodemus nods with [0m[31mcrimson[0m[1;32m eyes.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: but we would do it professionaly, and hold votes and so forth[0m
[1;32m     much like how Mortal Council is run[0m
[1;32mTurk says: and then report back to our guilds after each meeting[0m

Rogar enters.

[1;32mTurk says: Please give your comments on this idea[0m

[1;32mRogar cheers like a [0m[1;36mdwarf.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: Dorianna you have the floor[0m

[1;32mNichodemus raises his hand.[0m

[1;32mDorianna says: Now, by the very definition of role play, however...moral[0m
[1;32m     guilds aren't going to meet with immoral guilds and say "let's all play[0m
[1;32m     nice". I mean, it's a good thought, but in my mind a treaty with Durms or[0m
[1;32m     SoU isn't worth the paper it's written on (no offense, but my role play[0m
[1;32m     is to distrust elf and friend killers)[0m
[1;32mDorianna says: That's all[0m

[1;32mTurk says: Nichodemus you have the floor[0m

[1;32mViking raises his hand.[0m

[1;32mDuniv raises his hand.[0m

[1;32mEMOTE:[0m-> Annadur raises her hand

[1;32mNichodemus smirks in amusement.[0m
[1;32mNichodemus says: Well.[0m
[1;32mNichodemus says: First of all, it requires tuning, as expected.[0m
[1;32mNichodemus says: However, the question you must also ask yourself is this -[0m
[1;32mNichodemus says: Will it be entirely out-of-character?  Obviously the Sons and[0m
[1;32m     the Amruin don't have meetings like this.[0m

[1;32mNichodemus says: As well as that -[0m

[1;32mAndron raises his hand.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: I believe Viking is next[0m

[1;32mNichodemus says: There has to be a certain amount of rigid formality amongst all[0m
[1;32m     of these...councillors...as you say.[0m
[1;32mNichodemus says: If there was such a council to be created,[0m

[1;32mTurk says: sorry[0m

[1;32mEMOTE:[0m-> Duniv has to leave.
Duniv leaves north.

[1;32mNichodemus says: Then the only way it would work would to focus on the task at[0m
[1;32m     hand as typists, then resume normal business.[0m
[1;32mNichodemus shrugs.[0m

[1;32mTurk nods grimly with the wisdom of many years in battle.[0m
[1;32mTurk says: Viking your thoughts?[0m

[1;32mViking tugs on his [0m[31mrugged red beard.[0m
[1;32mViking says: much the same as Nichodemus, in order for something like this[0m
[1;32m     to work, in my mind it _has_ to be an out of character body[0m

[1;32mPlow raises his hand.[0m

[1;32mCrusaderr raises his hand.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: quite right. I dont think any of us would argue that statement[0m
[1;32mTurk says: Andron you're up[0m

[1;32mAnnadur coughs.[0m

[1;32mAndron nods.[0m

[1;32mViking says: and I think it would mean that those present on this council[0m
[1;32m     should as one of the first thing they do...[0m

[1;32mAndron points at Annadur.[0m
[1;32mAndron smiles.[0m
[1;32mAnnadur smiles [0m[1;31mdarkly[0m[1;32m.[0m

[1;32mViking says: ... get to know eachother a bit irl and stuff as to why they[0m
[1;32m     are playing their characters and stuff like that[0m
[1;32mEMOTE:[0mViking steps back

[1;32mTurk grins Turk-like.[0m

[1;32mAnnadur says: i like to name one example to clarify my point[0m

[1;32mTurk says: okay Annadur you have the floor[0m

[1;32mAnnadur says: i like the whole idea to stimulate RP, but i think the MAIN[0m
[1;32m     point is here that we need to go back to our guilds and stay in our[0m
[1;32m     theme..really RP, like Wyngel of my guild for example..who RPs in combat[0m
[1;32m     and out of it[0m
[1;32mAnnadur says: the CoU have not made any RP agreements with anyone[0m
[1;32mAnnadur says: yet because of his RP he's been appreciated by many of our[0m
[1;32m     enemies, and even combat is most of time always worked out even without[0m
[1;32m     rules[0m
[1;32mAnnadur says: my opinion is that we need to focus on real thematic (not[0m
[1;32m     playability combat rules) RP first...and then rules will be easier to[0m
[1;32m     follow[0m
[1;32mAnnadur says: because even enemies can appreciate each other OOC more[0m

[1;32mEMOTE:[0m-> Mimak agrees fully.

[1;32mAnnadur says: and that will help a lot[0m
[1;32mAnnadur says: and will make it more fun for all of us[0m
[1;32mAnnadur says: thank you[0m

[1;32mTurk says: I believe andron is next[0m

[1;32mAndron nods.[0m
[1;32mAndron says: I can agree with the mentioned aspects. In addition to them I'd[0m
[1;32m     like to point out that the council will only be of any real use if it has[0m
[1;32m     an effect on the "outer"-world. We may discuss anything in the council[0m
[1;32m     and make some treaties (maybe) but if the rest of Arda's player do not[0m
[1;32m     pay attention to our decissions..[0m
[1;32mAndron says: well they are not worth anything ;) Thus I suggest that the[0m
[1;32m     council's aim should also be to influence the Ainurs and maybe MC[0m
[1;32m     decissions[0m
[1;32mAndron says: and because we are debating RP matters in this council we have[0m
[1;32m     to do this OOC[0m

[1;32mTurk says: exactly[0m

[1;32mAndron says: and I agree with Annadur too..[0m

[1;32mTurk says: okay I believe crusaderr is next[0m

[1;32mAndron nods.[0m

[1;32mCrusaderr says: plow is before me[0m

[1;32mTurk says: plow has withdrawn[0m
[1;32mTurk says: you have the floor[0m

[1;32mCrusaderr says: Alright basically I agree with Andron that the idea of this[0m
[1;32m     council would best be served only as a body for making suggestions.[0m

[1;32mAdunazon laughs strangely.[0m
[1;32mAdunazon coughs.[0m

[1;32mAndron chuckles.[0m

[1;32mCrusaderr says: I don't know about the other guilds, but our guild will never[0m
[1;32m     take orders from a body outside of our own.[0m

[1;32mDorianna agrees with Crusaderr wholeheartedly.[0m

[1;32mTurk raises an eyebrow.[0m
[1;32mTurk raises his hand with a look that [0m[1;33mcommands[0m[1;32m your attention.[0m

[1;32mTiew hand raises an eyebrow.[0m
[1;32mTiew raises his hand.[0m

[1;32mCrusaderr says: if you have somethin to say Turk go ahead[0m

[1;32mTiew smiles.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: thankyou all for your comments[0m
[1;32mTurk says: very valued[0m

[1;32mCrusaderr says: as for Adunazon laughing at me I held my tongue when you spoke[0m
[1;32m     so do me the same[0m

[1;32mTurk says: I would like now to clarify 2 things[0m

Plow has gone net-dead.

[1;32mAdunazon says: I apologize. I was laughing at the tag upon Celeborn's sword.[0m
[1;32m     You have my sincerest apology.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: number one. This council would NEVER try to Govern Roleplay or[0m
[1;32m     create a ruling body. IT would be there as a way for each and every guild[0m
[1;32m     to discuss and express their thoughts on Roleplay in the hopes that in[0m
[1;32m     some issues we might all vote unanimously! because that is the only way[0m
[1;32m     anything could be acomplished. The hopes that after debating the small[0m
[1;32m     issues we will all find mutual agreements. And build from there[0m
[1;32mTurk says: number 2, this council would NOT focus on players outside of[0m
[1;32m     guilds because we all know that battle is fruitless. We here in this room[0m
[1;32m     represent the major bodies of roleplayers in arda. We here can only speak[0m
[1;32m     for ourselves. This council would be designed as a way to interact with[0m
[1;32m     each other[0m
[1;32mTurk says: thankyou[0m

[1;32mCrusaderr says: Just as long as this doesn't get out of hand and try and start[0m
[1;32m     imposing rules.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: one final thing[0m
[1;32mTurk says: What would it hurt to beta test this idea? Could we not say run[0m
[1;32m     a couple of trial council meetings and then decide for ourselves wether[0m
[1;32m     it is worth keeping or disbanding?[0m
[1;32mTurk says: that is all[0m

[1;32mNichodemus nods with [0m[31mcrimson[0m[1;32m eyes.[0m

[1;32mAndron agrees with Turk wholeheartedly.[0m

[1;32mAnnadur nods.[0m

[1;32mAnnadur says: sounds good[0m

[1;32mMimak says: At least it would keep us focused on roleplay. That cant hurt.[0m

[1;32mAndron raises his hand.[0m

[1;32mAnnadur nods at Mimak.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: Andron you have the floor[0m

[1;32mAndron says: Maybe after some meetings the Council will become respected..[0m

[1;32mRolf raises his hand.[0m

[1;32mAndron says: and so be some kind of guideline[0m
[1;32mAndron says: thatsall :) thankyou[0m

[1;32mTurk says: excellent[0m
[1;32mTurk says: signal by means of nod or shake if your guild will agree to a[0m
[1;32m     couple of "trial council meetings" in the future and see how it goes[0m

[1;32mNichodemus nods with [0m[31mcrimson[0m[1;32m eyes.[0m
[1;32mAnnadur nods.[0m
[1;32mAndron nods.[0m
[1;32mGarik nods.[0m
[1;32mMimak nods.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: what say you valacirca and Sons of ulfang[0m

[1;32mRelg nods.[0m
[1;32mAdunazon nods slightly.[0m
[1;32mElendur nods.[0m
[1;32mDorianna hmms.[0m

[1;32mCrusaderr says: well we'll try anything once I guess[0m

[1;32mDorianna nods at Crusaderr.[0m

[1;32mTurk grins broadly.[0m

[1;32mTiew nods.[0m

[1;32mIrun nods quickly.[0m

[1;32mHayduke points at Crusaderr.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: excellent guys. That concludes my meeting here with you today.[0m
[1;32m     I just want to point out that this had been the most civilized and[0m
[1;32m     productive meeting of guilds i have ever seen. Pat yourselves on the back[0m

[1;32mRelg coughs.[0m

[1;32mNichodemus pats his head and rubs his tummy at the same time.[0m
[1;32mNichodemus smirks in amusement.[0m

[1;32mGarik smiles.[0m

[1;32mAndron smiles with [0m[1;33msparkling[0m[1;32m eyes.[0m

[1;32mMimak says: So.[0m
[1;32mMimak coughs.[0m

[1;32mAdunazon says: Who is buying the ale?[0m
[1;32mAnnadur says: will you organise the council?[0m
[1;32mAdunazon grins wickedly.[0m

[1;32mMimak says: Any ale around?[0m

Santao drops a keg of Dwarven ale.
Santao drops a keg of Dwarven ale.
[1;32mSantao smiles.[0m

[1;32mEMOTE:[0m-> Annadur could use a drink too

[1;32mTurk says: i guess there are just a couple particulars we all have to[0m
[1;32m     agree on[0m

[1;32mEMOTE:[0m-> Relg gives rolf a chair to stand on

[1;32mViking mmms.[0m

[1;32mRelg says in Khuzdul:  Raise ombene hand now my friend[0m


[1;32mRolf raises his hand.[0m

[1;32mMimak says: Turk, I believe my son Rolf has some more things to add.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: the Guildmasters/ whoever runs your specific guild should[0m
[1;32m     choose one member of each guild to be in the council[0m
[1;32mTurk says: sure[0m

You say: Before everyone goes, leaves or drinks, please be carefull with
     oportunists outside, specialy Valacircans and Knights

[1;32mRolf coughs.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: Rolf you have the floor[0m

[1;32mRolf says: You just said it Turk[0m

[1;32mTurk grins Turk-like.[0m

Adunazon gets a keg of Dwarven ale.

[1;32mTiew nods at you.[0m

[1;32mAnnadur grins [0m[1;31mevilly[0m[1;32m.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: and we need to decide how often we should meet.  every two[0m
[1;32m     weeks or something?[0m

[1;32mDraugluin thanks Turk.[0m
Draugluin fades into the shadows.

[1;32mAnnadur says: we can try[0m

[1;32mNichodemus nods with [0m[31mcrimson[0m[1;32m eyes at Turk.[0m

Adunazon looks at a keg of Dwarven ale.

Mimak looks at a keg of Dwarven ale.

[1;32mTurk says: ill take responsibility of mailing each guild and finding out[0m
[1;32m     who the reps will be and what kind of times are good for them[0m

[1;32mMimak oohs excitedly.[0m

Adunazon guzzles the dwarven ale with a sign of contentment.
Adunazon drops a keg of Dwarven ale.

Mimak gets a keg of Dwarven ale.
Mimak guzzles the dwarven ale with a sign of contentment.
Mimak guzzles the dwarven ale with a sign of contentment.
Mimak looks at a keg of Dwarven ale.
[1;32mMimak burps like an alcoholic.[0m
Mimak drops a keg of Dwarven ale.

Annadur suddenly shimmers and fades away.

[1;32mAndron thanks Turk.[0m

Dorianna looks around the room with white glowing eyes.

Crusaderr looks around the room with white glowing eyes.

[1;32mTiew bows with dwarven courtliness, his beard barely brushing the floor.[0m

[1;32mDorianna says: later[0m

[1;32mAndron says: Thank you for the meeting.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: i guess the last thing is this[0m

Tiew looks around the room with white glowing eyes.

[1;32mAndron waves [0m[1;36mthe banner of the[0m[1;32m [0m[1;34mShip[0m[1;32m [0m[1;36mand the[0m
[1;32m     [0m[37mSwan[0m[1;32m.[0m

Crusaderr leaves north.

[1;32mDorianna smiles.[0m

Tiew leaves north.
Andron leaves north.

Irun looks around the room with white glowing eyes.

[1;32mHayduke waves.[0m
[1;32mHayduke waves.[0m

[1;32mIrun waves.[0m

[1;32mElendur waves.[0m

[1;32mSwamp waves [0mlike a surfer... [33m(the original).[0m

[1;32mGarik waves with the banner of the [0m[1;36mShip and the Silver Swan.[0m

Dorianna leaves north.

[1;32mTurk says: everyone think of an issue to bring to the first meeting[0m

Elendur leaves north.
Garik leaves north.

[1;32mTurk waves.[0m

Irun leaves north.
Hayduke leaves north.

[1;32mAdunazon bows swiftly, his dark cape draping about him.[0m

[1;32mNichodemus tips his [0m[34mdark[0m[1;32m hat and perishes into the night.[0m

[1;32mAdunazon says: Thank you for the opportunity.[0m

[1;32mMimak salutes as a proud dwarf of Durin's line.[0m

[1;32mTurk salutes [0m[37mwith the [0m[31mstern [0m[33mgaze[0m[37m of the[0m
[37m     [0m[34mAmruin.[0m

[1;32mViking gives Mimak a hot, sweaty hug, leaving sweat all over him.  Gross![0m

Nichodemus leaves north.

[1;32mRogar grins as a true [0m[1;34mBrave[0m[1;36mStone.[0m

Mimak looks at a keg of Dwarven ale.

[1;32mSwamp waves [0mlike a surfer... [33m(the original) at Mimak.[0m

[1;32mMimak mmms.[0m

[1;32mViking says to Mimak: oh do leave the kegs.[0m

[1;32mMimak laughs loudly, splitting his beard in two![0m

Adunazon leaves north.

[1;32mMimak says: I'll leave those kegs for those who want to taste our marvelous[0m
[1;32m     ale ;)[0m

[1;32mViking nods eagerly.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: well i really need a smoke![0m

[1;32mRelg bows deeply.[0m

[1;32mRogar goes "WHEE!!".[0m

Relg leaves north.

Viking gets a keg of Dwarven ale.
Viking gets a keg of Dwarven ale.

[1;32mTurk says: damn that was hard[0m
[1;32mTurk grins Turk-like.[0m

[1;32mRolf pats Turk on the back.[0m
[1;32mTrempk grins.[0m

[1;32mMimak chuckles in some weird dwarven manner.[0m

[1;32mRolf says: You did well[0m

[1;32mMimak says: Ye did great, Turk.[0m

[1;32mMorphiend nods.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: i am so impressed that everone was civilized and got to speak[0m

[1;32mRolf agrees wholeheartedly.[0m

[1;32mMimak says: Keep strong, friends. For I must depart.[0m

Mimak looks at Viking.

You tell Annadur: ah, for 1 sec i got scared :p
[1;32mTurk salutes [0m[37mwith the [0m[31mstern [0m[33mgaze[0m[37m of the[0m
[37m     [0m[34mAmruin.[0m

[1;32mMorphiend says: Now wait till the first meeting :P[0m

[1;32mViking whistles innocently.[0m

[1;32mTurk says: be well[0m

[1;32mMimak says: And dont let Vikign drink all the ale.[0m
[1;32mMimak winks.[0m

[1;32mTurk grins Turk-like.[0m

[1;32mMimak waves with his mug.[0m
Mimak leaves north.

[1;32mRolf says: Turk, what is the name of the council[0m

[1;32mRogar says: we should do that more frequently to clean the bad thoughts[0m
[1;32mRogar smiles.[0m

[1;32mViking rubs his his kegs.[0m
[1;32mViking tips his war-helmet in a nice gesture.[0m