To be fair, there were a LOT of people cheating on TNT and getting punished very little.
I would really like to correct some people on TNT facts here. The reason why there was a reconciliation in the first place was the extreme FEAR that tons of people began starting to play in both places and the community in TNT became significantly stronger by the day (like literally the numbers on TNT grew by at least 2-5 average on at a time PER WEEK). After the 1 month of cheating etc and weeding out the lists of reactivated nuked chars etc, the game literally returned to the games glory days with a smaller player base. The morons who were fed crap by the administration that TNT were cheaters etc stayed off the game lending the base to something it had lost on the 'true' copy and that's intelligent player base and characters/unique players rejoining there again. This is what they feared, and the odds they would pursue litigation or even a cease and desist (both very costly compared to the operating revenue of the towers main machine) were almost null, therefore it was actually TNT that held all the cards in that situation. It was the best Christmas present I have ever received (even though indirectly not actually given to me). I choose to remember TNT as the last time the towers was really the towers. Aule tried to reunite the two properly but it was an impossible task knowing what personalities he would be dealing with going forward and this is evidenced as to what the towers is now.
What a joke it was that Castamir was allowed a copy of the mud in the first place. No wonder you couldn't make a fucking alt without Tanar or someone listing off every character you've ever played.
Well, I highly doubt anyone can get a copy of the MUD up and running again so.
Mathias said it, it must be true.
Stop rating Sean with Marthaon ffs!!!! :P
If there's 5000 characters on the mud, 4800 of them are Exhalev and Marthaon and they're just multiboxing that shit. For fuck's sake.
I don't think you guys understand. There's over 5000 active characters on T2T, with close to 1000 unique logins every day. The MUD isn't dying, it's preparing to assault and destroy all other MUDs with its overwhelmingly large imaginary playerbase.
Haha, amen Myrddin. Problem is that there's no higher authority than Melkor who can take control from him.
Drunken Myrddin: I think the time for a new TNT is basically approaching. Current MUD will be dead soon because of people who have no idea about the game anymore stepping up to the plate to exert their Napoleon complexes. I mean when Osse was in power I didn't get along with him, but he was doing approximately the right thing. The current MUD is just a clueless mess. Slightly glad I can't log into it right now.
I see draimon is learning his place now
*He just opened it up to everyone without asking permission. :)
No code was stolen. Castamir had a copy of the mud up and running for several years for bug testing which the staff new about, he just made the deal to open it up. And yes leting people get free lvl 19's and shit was abit bad, but at the same time an easy way to make the playerbase grow quickly. Don't get what was so bad about the pet system, it was quite fun actualy. They removed BP's and they listend to people, you could tell a ainu directely an idea and he would bring it up and in many cases get implemented very quickly. Im not sure about anyone else but it really did feel like the mud the first time i started playing it. It was extremely fun and i started questing and shit again, which at that point i hadnt in 'normal' mud for a year or so.
i thought you were being serious up until this point. i feel so foolish now
<3 Brubaker.
doing 5man bang on 16level in mordor is way bigger accomplishment than your whole mud life.
The Event is tons of fun too. Doesn't make it sustainable.
W/e. TNT was tons of fun :)
The Valar came back, displaced the administration on T2T and negotiated a deal with Castamir in which he would shut TNT down and rejoin main-stream T2T.
There was a reconciliation; hence Castamir being back on the staff of the ordinary towers. Most people like TNT because the so-called administration essentially allowed everybody to do whatever they wanted and made unashamedly crowd-pleasing decisions such as the restoration of all nuked characters and the implementation of a ridiculous 'pets' system. It was fun whilst it lasted, but fun in the same way that putting cheat codes into Age of Empires is; chaotic, disorganized and wholly unsustainable. Fundamentally it was an extremely flawed and extremely stupid idea. If you think the game and the playerbase are dying now, then just imagine how bad it'd be if the entire game had been allowed to schism into two.
did it go dynamite???
what happened t oTNT then
Woric, TNT was a MUD Castamir made after he stole the code. It was basicly T2T but they brought fade back, opened up services to FR and ER, made pets, implimented mining. It had a much better community feel and was just generaly fun to play.
That was ainur I hacked an ainur and gated people to Shelob. Then I got hardbanned.
:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
brubaker on a serious note you said that you had accomplished more on this mud in 3 years than i ever have. again i am just curious as to what sort of things you feel you have accomplished?
me? no i didnt visit this page at all while i was gone for 3 years so i truly am out of the loop which explains how i suck so bad
Woot, Draimom wrote a comment which made sense for once.
Have you been lurking around here all this time?
This is my new insult:
[new] Date: 16. Feb, 2010, 21:21:05 By: Brubaker
And woric, dude. You are shit, shit stays quiet, so obey to that.
well i am a fucking genius and when i was a young prick i had shitty grammar so yeah :))))))
haha, most young kids don't have bad grammar
i wasn't around when herks showed up or became prevalent in this game so of course i am missing probably a lot of the reasons why so many people dislike them and i don't even know what TNT is so that could explain why my opinion varies. ive never really gotten any specifics though as to what the herks did to drive so many people away. i only know them as they are now which is mostly young kids with poor grammar as most young kids will have who tend to play and side with their RL friends as most players do. of course most rock the mapper and the super clients which i find lame but that is mostly just jealousy because i don't know how to do a damn thing with my client. obviously if so many old and respected players dislike them i am sure there are viable reasons but i wasn't around to experience them so feel free to inform me. <3
Draimon, if you really honestly think both them and herks operated like each other, you will quickly lose any credit everyone here gave you. You were either one of the people that straight up fought them and hated them or you are really stupid and have man love for the herks. There were MAJOR differences between the two groups. One existed and did not dwarf the actual growth of the towers (they were there the entire time) nor cause many if hardly any at all old school players to leave. The herks on the other hand, did this especially during the period right after BP's were taken out. It's very sad how a change that was put in probably less than 1 year ruined a work of art of almost 7 years at the time. And the kind of community (none really) that was generated in place of the one that was present before (a great one) made this even more apparent because of who emerged as 'leaders' in it. TNT was proof positive that if things had been done properly and fixed properly, the community could have regrew to some degree but alas, when the two were combined again, most of us gave up serious dedication and care because none of the really awesome things that made TNT really fun again were not ported over. These were things that weren't so PVP oriented but rather PVM types that allowed variation.
i perhaps misunderstood tireless' point but either way that's my opinion of the old FRA and yes lobo and i usually right about everything
Hirgail, you left the MUD yet you still have hate. That can't be healthy. :( :( :(
What Draimon said. Wtf, tireless, where did you read that?
and before anybody says it i by no means consider myself a hero on the mud or even really even a positive contributor but i call it like i see it
DH and FRA were not policing the mud. they were no better than the herkies you all hate so much today. a bunch of non char separating bullies who relied on massive activity and uniques to gangbang away anybody they didn't like. this doesn't mean they are not good players or not nice guys but certainly not the heroes tireless appears to remember them as
To counter: No the game is a steaming pile of shit that should have closed 5 years ago. 10 people play it, those same 10 people will be playing it when the internet is a chip that you have inserted into your brain.
Also congrats guys! You're having the exact same conversation people have been having on this site for the past 8 years.
I like blaming things on Draugluin, he was a tool. Let's do some more of that.
^ (OOC) Thrylix: anyone under level 12 want to help me with a quest?
no serious answers
Back in the day, the game was self-policing. Say what you will about Daen Hecil and FRA, but they did an excellent job of showing people that there were social standards in the game. Battlepoints invalidated that approach to the MUD on a number of levels. After battlepoints were removed, things had changed to much and there was no going back.
In short - it's Draugluin's fault.
Norin, think about this, the public rise of the crazies proves my point. Think fyng, Quaiuh (SP?), etc. Its on the rise, you may argue that we have had them all along, but the fact that more are vocal gives a strong indication that the concentration is higher and they aren't rediculed by the general population as much because they are becoming the general population.
Well tireless, I did actually forget the whole, mudding while they work aspect honestly. There was a point at which I for one was doing about 50 hours a week of age, but only 10 hours were actually not inside work (maybe 12 depending on what was going on in the towers). I did care about the mud a ton as well, which is why I stuck around with it so long, but I really have no investment into it nowdays. If any of the current powers asked me to help donate, I would flat out reject them on the grounds that they don't listen to more than a few people most of them that shouldn't be giving advice and direction from a players point of view. They never listen/care about the actual players anymore, their monsterous ego's prevent this. They assume they know what the players want, and what will work and that they know exactly what it is, and bumble on.
get that fucking logic out of here darrick. is has no place
I think there is something to the activity levels everyone is missing. The LotR movies generated a great deal of interest in the game, I think. It's been almost a decade now since they came out. I believe alot of people found the game searching for info on 'The Two Towers'. I can't speak for activity levels prior to when I first started playing back in 2000, but I used to log on around 7PM EST and see 130 people on. Now I see no more than 70 at the peaks. Alot of those people contributed to the under level 15 crowd, not being familiar to MUD's (I know I wasn't). There is a very disproportionate number of high levels now compared to the lowbies, and that does cut down on the amount of people actually out and about. It also kills off alot of new blood when you're a newer player, trying to make friends/party, and you're the only person on under level 9. What can be done about it? I don't really know, but something does need to happen. If your business (in this case game) isn't growing, it is dying.
I'm not judging. I'm observing. I'm entirely open to the prospect of an observation which proves me wrong, but I am skeptical that it exists.
Osse seemed reasonably normal when I met him so I acknowledge that he may be the exception, but I didn't know him _that_ well either as an Ainu, a mort or a person.
It's actually damn hillarious how you guys allow yourselves to hang everyone in the game on these 'pegs'.
Yes, some people fit in those groups you describe i suppose... but please. It's not that bad. If you think it is, you need to get to know more people that still play the game. :)
You paint a ugly image of people that you basically do not know at all. People you only interacted with through some online game (most them at least).
It's just lame imo. :)
No question, Pounder. My theory is that everyone who plays Towers has some sort of significant personality disorder, with the magnitude of the disorder being directly proportional to the amount of aging they do. As people overcome their personality disorders, they leave.
WILL BARTER FOR SC2 BETA KEY
Shabba is my favorite. He listed too many good games. :( No way N64 was the best ever. Not even close. The best days were sega vs nintendo up to genesis/snes. And holy fuck sticks, I completely forgot about smash TV lol. :)
On a serious note, I think anyone whoever originally thought the group of valar running the mud sucked (along with those who thought Rauko was a horrible power) now understand how important the original base of ainur were to the success and awesomeness of the mud. That group was unparrelled in terms of good chemistry and straight up unique personallities meshing in a mostly very good way. But it was a ton of work for them, even though Aule tried to come back (and I realize some of you guys had personal shit with him but he did more for the mud than ANYONE else period), and because of that, most of them lost interest or had other parts of their life take over. I am very torn, but it seems like, the people who are most active left in the game are one of two groups now (aside from new people). They are either people who come on, play a little, have some fun, but also still enjoy it so a healthy degree (this is VERY few people btw). The only real example I know that is still active to this degree would be Mornaner (sorry guys, I don't play much), and that is biased but noone here who knows him will disagree. The second group, are the completely fucked up in the head types. They have some OCD or true mental illness that keeps them addicted without breaks. This applies to ainu as well as player. Sadly for those in group one, they simply eventually stop coming there because there isn't enough to draw back, not enough good old friends etc. They give up and you just get another OCD/mental case that springs up in their place (well actually more like 1/2 one springs up in their place). This is the incredibly sad state of the mud. I would love to do some metrics, and determine what amount of people online are actually below 15 at any one time % wise. Actually record the overall baselines for particular times. Granted some will be spartan and others remaking. But back in the huge days of the mud, you had quite a few high levels but you had a very very healthy % of lower/mid levels as well. Face it, Tireless, maybe you are in group 1 of the above, you cannot tell me compared to years back, that that % of crazys has gone down or stayed the same.
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'If there's 5000 characters on the mud, 4800 of them are Exhalev and Marthaon and they're just multiboxing that shit. For fuck's sake.'
You are now my favorite. Sorry Shabba, you're now number 2.
i think if the powers could change the mud back to when i was in my prime everything would be all better. for me.
I never played wind waker, thanks for the tip. But i assure you i played LttP without a walkthrough, pretty challenging but doable.
sunflash, whoever logs in is skating on thin ice. But what mathias doesn't realize is tha his game is on a even thinner layer. Its like the fucking winter games, but no one will get a medal
everybody in this thread is wrong except me and anybody who happens to agree with me
It is quite amusing how they seem to cover their eyes and pretend everything is alright, eh?
I just thought I'd input here that Mathias deigned to inform me whenever it was I logged in this week for 3(THREE!) hours that there are over 5000 characters on the mud, and that there had been almost 1000 unique logins that day. I told him he was full of shit, they were all level 1 alts, that of the 67 players online, I recognized over 75% of the names and I don't think I've been active in like 7 or 8 months, and that there was no way more than 200 or so typists play this game actively, or that more than 100 of those typists leave the GH actively to go out and like, do stuff. You know, other than chat on the comm and risk random bans due to draconian policies restricting the shit out of your ability to communicate.
If there's 5000 characters on the mud, 4800 of them are Exhalev and Marthaon and they're just multiboxing that shit. For fuck's sake. 1000 unique logins a day my ass.
Oh, he also told me I didn't realize how thin the ice I was skating on during the 3(THREE!) hours I was online, as if I care about MUD punishments at this point. So we already know he's delusional.
River City Ransom, YES
Ocarina of Time was fun... but not as fun as multiplayer Double Dragon 2 or River City Ransom. Then there was Smash TV, Power Blade 2, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. Operation Wolf for the shooter genre, Shingen: the Ruler and Bandit Kings of Ancient China for war strategy. The only decent RPG I played on it was the AD&D game Pool of Radiance, though. It was like an 8-bit Neverwinter Nights.
Wind Waker was clearly better than Link to the Past. There were no periods in Wind Waker where the puzzle solutions defied solution; in Link to the Past there was a section which was patently impossible without a walkthrough (around the 3rd or 4th temple in the shadow lands).
Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time were the best ever. If you disagree you're a herkie.
Link to the Past was the _worst_ Zelda up to and including Majora's Mask. (I barelyed played MM and I never played any beyond that, so it may have gone downhill.)
FF6, Lufia II, donkey kong country, Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past, Chrono Trigger, etc etc... SNES = best RPGs of all time.
Anyone who can't see that n64 owns any console past or present needs serious help. 7 words for you: The Legend of Zelda - Ocarina of Time. Case closed guys.
SNES was the best.
100
He's just a disgruntled player. He was able to spree kill mid-levels just fine, Valinor only stepped in because he got tired of targets that lasted more than 5 seconds so decided to go for the newer/lower level group instead. That's when it crossed the line from simple spree killing to harassment.
But you'll also remember that in the past spree killing didn't even get you a warning, you were nuked the moment an ainur noticed. But hey, times change.
I fail to see how killing newbies and mid levels for no reason other than you can helps the mud.
The fact remains that destroying player investment whimsically isn't a good way to keep people playing your game. The fallout of the pk-frenzy and battlepoints should've been evidence enough of that.
i think if jerf would stop being a hippie and quit playing cod and start mudding the user list would probably double within 3-4 days. NO DOUBT CUBSCOUT
but basically tireless has aptly summarized the whole problem. too few players. too big of a map. too many guilds. not a lot of players having to interact with each other. it's like a glorified single player game. shrink things down that gets players back to having to work with other players, having to speak with other players, having to fight other players.
Yeah this game rocked in the 80s :(
i dont need to control myself. I AM ALWAYS IN CONTROL. it's just that i think it's a bit silly to censor things (within reason) on a log page about a game that like 14 dudes play. and myrrdin it forces people to meet new people if their guilds are combined, it provides either a need to quest more gear for the armoury or if your guild sucks perhaps an upgrade in the armoury. it increases the number of people with what should be a similiar cause rather than just a place to dump your gear when you log off and a bar to idle at. it would take some inspiration but perhaps a guild could get say 3-5 dudes and start raiding enemy towns? crazy ideas i know but back in the 80's wild shit like that used to happen. even crazier was enemies of the raiders would sometimes even band together to try to fight off the people killing their citizens. wild wild stuff. hard to wrap your mind around really.
It's a matter of player density, not numbers. More players in fewer guilds rather than fewer players in more guilds (where the number of total players is constant between the two scenarios) promotes more player interaction and creates groups capable of having their own dynamics, rather that guilds being glorified individuals.
The argument goes that if you increase player density, the character of the game improves based on group dynamics and encourages player growth.
I'm still yet to hear any intelligent argument for this supposed inverse relationship between guild number and player number. Removing guilds is only going to get rid of more players. It's just a fucking ridiculous idea that keeps getting thrown out there as the supposed solution to every problem, without any actual justification. Second only to the 'Do a full pwipe and make everyone start over!' argument in unjustified stupidity.
I mostly agree with almost everything Draimon said. And, especially since it looks like he was trying hard to control himself, I won't punish for a slip-up he had in his second post (and will repost it without the offending term).
By Draimon:
and in case anybody is confused i hold no more ill will towards herkies than i do to anybody else on the game. dismissing someone as a herkie is lazy and as has been seen by the suspensions of kosvar and the nukes of winnetou and the warnings of esteban everybody fucking cheats. everybody has some mapper and doesnt know how to play. so to really act and treat herks like they are the only people who do that is just silly and prejudiced.
as long as we have heroes like gambrinus and 90 percent of the logged on players at or above level 19 this mud will never die! i mean seriously fuck me? you might as well play a non interactive game at this point since anybody who does anything to another player is viewed as a total outcast and jerk and may even get nuked for 'crimes against the mud' or breaking rules that aren't even rules. how it is really that much fun to max your banks and gear all day and never do anything dangerous or pk or bother another person i am not sure, but i hope you guys all have fun with it. this mud has been pussified and ruined. every person spreed was reimbursed by lawsies and protected by the blessing of mandos when they were deserving. we were locked up if i can remember 1 time and died quite easily. if you can't outsmart and level bash spree killers to the point where they can no longer kill anybody it is really the fault of a lazy player base who can't be bothered to waste 3k out of the 400k in the banks to protect 'new' players. in closing you are all a bunch of pussies and some of the warm fuzzy feeling this mud now has needs to go away to save it.
1. cut the guilds down to about 10. most of these guilds ive never heard of and never see anybody logged on in them. are they just personal armouries for the 1-2 active members? what the fuck is the point? take all similarly themed guilds that dont have an active player base and either add them together into 1 guild or just disband the worthless ones and let the disbanded members fend for themselves.
2. boost mordor eq. make it worthwhile for people to go in there again and risk dying in a lawless land. right now there is pretty much nothing in mordor that doesn't have an equivalent or superior similar piece outside of mordor. we have level 22's who dont know mordor, who are afraid to go to mordor. that is laughable. give people a reason to get back in there and start mixing it up a bit.
3. minimize the amount of chars one typist can have to 2-3. that allows for maybe an ER and a FR and an assassin or something for the 2 people out there who still pk. this way the amount of times jimmy the dwarf is in mordor and sees scotty the uruk who is in jimmy's alt's guild he doesnt say 'hey whats up bro, can you shield me and ill get you a td or something then you can pretend you never saw me here'
the char separation here is a fucking joke and you can't even do anything RP wise like attack an IC enemy for fear that he is a herk or whoever and before you know it that nobody you attacked is killing you on 9 chars with all his buddies.
4. the RP of yesteryear was pretty bad but it was at least something. fighting at an NPC driving to drive the players away was unrealistic but it's 100x better than the non existent RP of today. the closest thing ive seen to any RP is putting beard in your surname if you are a dwarf or took if you are a hobbit. the map is too big. there are too many places to go and gold without having to worry about other players. there is no useful player interaction anymore. lothlorien? rhos? edoras? ghost towns. i dont even know what guilds are supposed to protect what anymore but i am doubtful that any guild protects any area anybody even wants to kill in anymore.
By: Nogothrim
This is completely my fault. Rome could have been perhaps the GREATEST ally for the BkD. But I missed some INfo. geezus christ rome, plz...i'm sorry I had no idea you hated everyone in udungul and wanted to be a spy for us.
^ is posted on a log of nogothrim (bkd) killing rome (udungul)
this is a dude who had the idea of the game correct. you don't need someone to corpse loot you or call your mom a whore to go kill them. dwarves and easterlings are supposed to be enemies. its fucking simple. but there is no IC anymore. nobody is a dwarf. nobody is an easterling. everybody is Sean or Brandon or Aaron or Nick or Douchebaker or Bret or Dan etc etc.
/end legendary rant
Fuck you tireless, i almost had a heart attack when i read that. i thought Civilization V had been released already and i wasn't playing it. fuck you.
King's Quest was awesome.
Also worth noting those game franchises had millions of players, paying to play them. I'm sure there are still a few people in the world who play Sim City from time to time, same as there will be a few people who play the MUD. But as the ratio of idiot children to people who actually gave a shit about the game increases, and the admin put their full support behind idiot children, this place is going to have a harder time paying the server bills.
I still play both the N64 and the playstation. I disagree with you, though.. The NES was Nintendo's best!
And, to those who will say that most of the games I listed didn't have online play support (There are only two exceptions on the list) so their single-player is what had to keep them going, XvT had multiplayer support using a crude early-gen version of Battlenet. In fact, that was the game that got me into online gaming. Support for the online feature was scrapped by Microsoft in 2001 due to lack of user interest.
Other games that started in or around 1994:
Warcraft: Orcs and Humans (Spawned World of Warcraft, 5 generations later)
Diablo I (Spawned Diablo II, soon to be III)
Star Wars: X-Wing (Spawned X-Wing Versus Tie Fighter, 2 generations later)
Sim City 2000 (Spawned The Sims, 20 generations later)
Civilization (Spawned Civilization 5, 12 generations later)
King's Quest 6 (Spawned King's Quest 8, 2 generations later)
MechWarrior 2 (Spawned MechWarrior 4, 2 generations later)
The state-of-the-art console available at the time was:
N64 (1996)
Playstation (1994)
Sega Saturn (1995)
Warcraft and Diablo have surviving descendants today - but they're Blizzard games, and no Blizzard game line has ever even come close to dying. I'm not sure about the status of the Sim line, but the original concept has absolutely died out (The Sims are not at all like Sim City, and all of the Sim City games are long gone). The King's Quest line died out a decade ago and the MechWarrior line has been dead for 8 years.
The N64, despite being obviously the best console Nintendo ever generated, has been completely replaced. It's difficult to find someone who plays it at retro-gaming meetings any more. The original Playstation is 100% gone (as I think the PS2 was compatible with its games) and most people below the age of 20 will not know what you mean if you say the name Sega Saturn. In fact, the company that created the Sega Saturn has been gone for almost a decade.
Towers may be on the decline, but it's beat the pants off of its competition. As long as there are people with serious personality disorders there will be a Towers, so its survival in some format is guaranteed. If mmo graphics games were going to supplant it, the release of WoW six years ago would have done it by now. (WoW, by the way, is on its fourth generation.) Our playerbase may get smaller as the game drifts further and further into a niche market instead of the mainstream, but it's not dying.
I love Draimon/Woric, and he is right about this mud dying. But the fact that Spartan and Most (and i say most because he is probably botting some new ones up right now) of his chars were nuked is probably the most justifiable thing that has happened on this mud. the kid has been cheating for years and hes a fuckwhit. :) <3 you nick.
Just to clarify my stance: I am perfectly fine with banning use of 'gay' or 'fag' as an insult. My quarrel is with banning using the word itself as a synonym for bad with absolutely no intended homosexual connotations.
The point is that by calling someone stupid you're suggesting that stupid is something someone would not want to be. Which is most likely true in every case, even the case of stupid people. By comparing this to calling someone gay, you're suggesting that being gay is something someone would not want to be, or something bad. Unlike being stupid homosexuality is as you say a choice and one people willingly make so saying or making it out as a bad thing is effectively hate speech. It's like people who troll on forums calling other people niggers as if by suggesting the other person is black they are somehow lessening them as a person.
Because stupid people are stupid, duh.
talk amongst yourselves
this comment is not intended to flame or argue but simply so i can learn something about the world. why is it ok to call stupid people stupid? do they choose to be stupid? how is that any different than a gay person being called gay? and here is where one will say 'but fag is different than gay, fag is hurtful and mean spirited.' so is dumbass, idiot, retard, fuckwit, and all sorts of names. so i ask you, the white guilt, politically correct, make my opinion off of some blooper i saw on the daily show generation why the double standard? why are you all so ashamed to be middle class hetero sexual white people? you didnt ask to be born that way anymore than the idiot or the homosexual. i am quite certain that this doesnt make any sense but if someone could translate it that would be outstanding <3
Let me guess, it was Gothwin or Nasira wasn't it!
i just have one thing to say............................ i kissed a girl and i liked it. the taste of her cherry chapstick
oh my, is tireless going on a power trip again? he's using melkor's actions to justify his!
I believe Fag -> Cigarette has been around a lot longer than Fag -> Gay.
However, I'm sure you'll get some added merriment from the following links.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/database/faggotswithoniongrav_3899.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_%28volume%29
owned by silence. N00B!
haha, fucking brits. Who came up with that slang usage :p
This is all to much! I'm going outside for a fag.
Look, imagine you're on Towers for a moment. You've done something that incurred Melkor's wrath and he nukes one of your characters. Is it a good idea to then switch to a different character and start giving him shit about it?
No. In fact, that's about the dumbest thing you can do.
Since you want to do this in public, here goes: You were being a dick. Don't argue. Don't try to deny it. You broke explicitly stated rules of the logpage over which I JUST FINISHED going on a tirade. You got punished for breaking those rules. If you want to give me guff about it I'll block all your accounts. People who insult others by using words like 'fag' make me see red, so the fact that I didn't perm block all your accounts already is an exercise in self-restraint.
Just shut up. Shut the fuck up. I'm not going to take any more shit from you.
You have been permanently blocked for the following: slurs
More information:
Ok, calling people fags, niggers, faggots and any derivative thereof is NOT ok and violates our rules policy. Since Woric is not an extant character and you're completely out of control, you're gone.
legend woric??
where is that coward gambrinus??
Brubaker is 16 and lives a crazy life, plus he'll show you what the 90's like.
I'm going to use my characters to make gold for powerlevelling Spartan's next character, I think. I'm pro-Solon.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA, you guys make me laugh :D
But i like Brubaby's music stile!
http://logs.dyndns.dk/viewer.php/8247
notice how awesome i once was WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED
brubaker = served = f'd in the a
ill have your bitch ass know i got nipple reduction surgery and now they are the size of dimes so yeah plz die
And yeah Brubaker, if that's really you, it's time for a hair-cut, a new t-shirt, and a few weight lifting sessions I reckon.
suck? I could raise a family under the shelter of your monstrous nipples, let alone touch it with my moog.
ALSO WHERE IS BRUBAKER?? SERSLY BRO COME ON AND TELL ME IF THATS YOU OWNING SHIT UP IN THAT PIC?? CAN I HAVE YOUR LEFTOVER POONTANG??
you shut your fucking whore mouth about my nipples. you are just jealous you couldnt twist them with your lips
Woric has areola's the size of dinner plates.
I mud-mailed your fucking massively nippled self but you'd suicided :(.
Best top 5 list maker of all time?
Kujo
Kade
Rush
Frankiej
Karmichael
Throw in Maroubra for good measure.
Time for a top 5?
Best mudder of all time,
King Kharaan
Vie
Woric
Prince Draimon
Allantir
throw in Kalizdin for good measure.
by spook i mean ghost or cia agent. not black person of course
trescothik srsly stop being a spook and just tell me who the fuck you are so i can say hey there lets make out or else hey there let me have anal intercourse with you
Woric is the best terrorist hunter the muds ever seen.
With these new provisions, the administration hopes to not be
involved in Player vs Player killing disputes any longer.
-help spreekilling
CALLING ALL DIPSHIT LOSERS NAMED BRUBAKER
IS THAT YOU IN YOUR USER LIST PIC?? IF SO HOW IS IT BANGING ANY CHICK YOU WANT?? AWESOME?? LEMME KNOW MAN <3
in honor of martha stewart i present
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/10-great-gary-coleman-quotes
contact your MC reps and beg them to get me reinstated winnetou. the future and history of the mud depends on it!
btw i want woric back - okay?!
weakass shit
is there anybody around who isn't fucking boring anymore? it seems not. NOW COME AND ARGUE WITH ME SOMEONE PLZ
Hahahaha, finally. Been waiting for this one, great stuff!
And by the way, he is almost as mad with alts as Etrius so he will most likely start over and create another 10ish alts and spread them all over Arda.
end of an era. now brubaker is tops on the mud. i myself ordered a tshirt with this image of him http://quovadimus.blogspot.com/harris.jpg
14.99 for a small but i like to wear them that way to show off my biceps
RIP to t2t.
ps dont forget to contact your MC reps Ansel and Orlando for reinstatement.
I like how some people are acting like this is the end of some great era and Spartan will be gone forever. It's not as if this hasn't happened to him at least half a dozen times before and he hasn't come back regardless.
A lot of tears, a lot of pain, but still no love.
I never liked Pallasch but I'd definitely rather him around than some of today's morons.
Definitely good people in that Pallasch log. Then again Caenedrin has no concept whatsoever of quality or much of anything (as seen by who he still hangs out with).
always nice to clear some names from the enemy list
can i just get a straight answer on if that is you or not? then i will stop picking on you buddy
I'm pretty sure you've got AIDS by now too woric. I gave it last week to your mom.
Good people.
Solon > all.
Enough said.
/Ape
No Woric, that's me.
brubaker. just tell me this. in your user list picture. are you the kid in the very back with the glasses and long hair and AIDS?
Good people or people you particularly liked?
Pallasch, Xsi, Tiresias, Thalus... Good times when good people played :(
And woric, dude. You are shit, shit stays quiet, so obey to that.
http://logs.dyndns.dk/viewer.php/10289
please...
what you are misunderstanding here is that there is no argument from me that you may be better than i am these days. the point is that nobody will ever think back fondly on your memory for anything or your contribution to the game both in an IC and OOC sense. you are disposable and easily forgotten even if you keep your 14/day average for another 7 years people will still say 'who the fuck is that' at the mention of your name. but don't let that stop you from having a good time :)
ok well tell us then brubaker what the fuck you have achieved?
http://logs.dyndns.dk/viewer.php/10288
Yes Yes, and I understand the irony of ME pointing to a Pallasch log.
Nope, i play this game actively for 3 years and i managed to achieve more than you. Recently you just make new chars and each of them dies to me and is either nuked or suicided. If anyone here is 14 year old lesbian girl, it is you. Just go to fucking corner and do more scars on your hands, you motherfucking emo.
brubaker you could play this game for 15 years and the day you quit nobody will still remember who the fuck you were. so please keep your cocksucker shut. also you look like a 14 year old lesbian girl.
stop whining, newbie
everybody contact your mortal council representative and demand the reinstatement of your favorite heroes today then log off until they are returned!KILL WHITEY FIGHT THE POWER
Woric I can't believe you came back and didn't talk to me. I fucking hope you burn in HELL! I am actualy upset you know. :(
*Agrees with Woric* Long live Solon. Long live the best.
Finally!!!
Though still, in some way, pity, i never got to kill him :D
Missing you :(
HEY URBAN??
Hey Woric?
boycott the mud until the return of these t2t legends
least justified crime against the playerbase in the history of the mud
Another reason macs are completely useless pieces of shit!
Kalas, Kosher are two of the ones you were missing.
There were 16 total nukes, according to Mathias.
here are 13, I'm missing 3.
Bandor,Cope,Duerkas,Volvar,Aaarioch,Azkur,Kvedulf,Kaylok,Murray,Brady,Spartan,Alyath,Delias
I can't open conversations with people appearing to be offline on mac msn :(
People I talk to from Towers on MSN: Myrddin, Shabba, and one other person.
People who are on my (MSN, Skype, AIM) list from Towers: Agan, you, Shabba, Nyx, Pakrat, Wilderuno, Brubaker, Spartan, Aryl, Syra, Lupin, Winnetou, Jakar, Ravathir, Ural, Pharruzir, Daywalker, Aaganara, Cruice, Osse, Jerf, Gristwen, Namina, Tevildo, Hoshkebosh, Wathdin, Lucky, Grimscar, Eussi and about a dozen other people whose instant messenger names no longer associate in my head with their Towers accounts.
If you want to talk to me on MSN, you need to talk :P
God damnit!
He's the only guy left who I didn't hate that filled personal C's.
Why do you never talk to me on msn?
He's not hardbanned, and you missed a few: According to the comm, the exhaustive list of chars nuked was Bandor,Cope,Duerkas,Volvar,Aaarioch,Azkur,Kvedulf,Kaylok,Murray,Brady.
(Credit: Dolur for comming the names.)
He's hardbanned right? The way to get around that is keep evading the hardban using proxies and if he's persistent enough, the ainu will let him back playing freely again. After some time, the ainu will grow to tolerate him and if not chummy. And if he's lucky enough to make the ainu love him, we may see another one of these logs again shortly.
lmao and the noobs rejoice