I'm noticing this trend with dead SoU, where their last dying words are always "lugburz." Pretty crazy stuff, I think it has some sort of weird curse associated with it or something. Anyway, since SoU generally only ever make gold (or generally even go) to Lothlorien, we had to take enough firepower to make sure she couldn't make it to her guild.
Thank God (or me and muaddib alternatively) for the comment system. Always good when you run out of stuff to do :p.
SWEEEET!!
Well, I thought the 'lugburz' part of the description was hard case, and I'm not touching that 'whore' business with a ten foot pole :)
*switches Jaren?s 'Whore' CD*
I like the movie minority report!
Sometimes I know I will envy you, Camillus
shaddup wasach, shach and i are friends and he knows im just fucking with him. compared to some of the things i've heard come out of his mouth, that mexican comment is rather mundane
Vitt, that was one of the most ignorant, racists, disgusting comments I've ever seen here.
You sounded like tuareg with that comment.
btw, anyone notice how mormon chicks that 'put out' are the dirtiest little sluts that will do EVERYTHING you want them too? (maybe this is just my experience and if so...go me!)
Wasach
converter of mormon chicks into catholic girls
mexicans can't be mormon, they spend all their time perfecting their running, jumping, and swimming ability to get across...they dont have time for religion. :P jk shach heh
sure you are! evryone that swear with christ's name is a mormon! you inquisitor's psycho:P
Necsi the heretic ;)
Go put on your magical glasses and read a book or some plates or something Shachmir.
er.... aren't you?
Damn :P
Wait a fucking minute, people don't really think I'm a Mormon do they? :P
lol
That Mormon thing was hilarious.
Hahaha Shashmir, as I said previosuly it's probably a cultural or educational's problem because whore to me has a strong meaning and is hugly degrading. Maybe this word has become so familiar to your ears that it has lost its meaning, I don't know, but this has nothing to do with roleplay to me for as I said, it's similar as racist insults.
*shrugs*
And please, spare me your blasphems are you a mormon or something? :P
'Just let people roleplay the way they choose..'
Necsi, how can you be mad at someone for saying whore then saying this in the same timeframe? Jesus Christ, that's just ignorant, are you French or something? :p
Whore? I don't think so...
concubine perhaps but not whore ;)
and the proper term for male prostitutes, is gigolo...proper terminology if you please
Whores, all of you! Whores.
See Gothwin knows I'm fucking around, we still love each other:)
and yes, i know that's not what you meant, i'm just being a dick, because it comes so naturally and all
i dont see how 'whore' is a racial slur..... ;)
and what's up with the timestamps?
Its not 14.32 its 14.08 ;)
Umm nesci I agree with almost everything in your post. But why would education make a difference in how you react to being called a whore?
To answer to Azura, I doubtlessly am way too sensitive about it, but whore sounds just like a racial's insult to me and I see no other ways than taking it litteraly...*shrugs* I assume it's just a matter of education or something, now it seems Gothwin don't give a hell about it, I personnally would have.
As for corpselooting, claimjumping,banging,pkilling in ''roleplay'' fight or whatever practises that are usually known as 'dishonorable' I don't think they are, I believe it's all a matter of roleplay and if people want to play some cooky bastards that do not respect their enemies why would all people whine about it?
If you want to 'respect' your enemy by letting him get a sword or an equipment you also wanted, that's fine i guess, some would say this is dumbb, some would say this is class... this goes as well for solos as compared as bangs, etc...
Just let people roleplay the way they choose, if you choose to not corpseloot because you esteem it's more honorable just keep it that way...
What I have difficulties to understand are people who esteem claimjumping is bad, but in another hand have no scruples to do it when it comes to people that don't respect it... I mean if you choose to not claimjump you don't whatever are the conditions.
For instance, my char choose to never report any attempts or pkills whataver they may be... and even if I am attempted by people that have reported me, I just won't change my mind next time they attack me and report them.
Props to the knights to act IC as well, they use to return us the equipment when there has been a mudcrash and that evryone went linkdead, this despite the fact some of us have corpseloot or claimjump some of them.
I think that's just a matter of attitude...
Necsipaal
my point wasn't to condemn them for it shachy poo, it was to point out that they did it, despite the fact that fra has said they dont do shit like that in the past.
I just had to get a few last comments in...
1. Hey Shachmir, just because you may have experienced people with 'false chivalry' or 'false nobility' doesn't mean that everyone is fake when they are concerned with another person's feelings. There are people that are honest in this game, and speak to others without the intent to get into their pants.
2. I still believe that the comments section on the log page breeds hate.
3. (relating to #2) Everyone thinks they are a tough guy, and try to prove it. P.S. it is impossible to prove that on this game.
4. Does anyone want a tissue?
5. Make sure you are having fun, after all it is a game.
6. Peace Mofo's
I left something out. That little comment about alts killing people that someone's guild is at war with was totally uncalled for. Any typist has the inherent right to pick the characters path in life and for your information, no matter how hard you try to get along with a person or group there is a strong possibility that you will not be able to. Some people were just born to hate another person and that's human nature, so when a group of characters belong to one typist it shouldn't be surprising that they share the same enemies and not something that needs to be poked at with a stick. If you get into a verbal tussle with Tuareg or someone else equally disliked most likely you aren't going to shield him while he's running around making gold with your alt because that inner hate is there. I should teach a class: T2T Philosophy 101
Seriously folks, it is a damn game, no need to take this crap like you're really going to go kill someone over it. Goth is a tough cookie she can take it. Only 'I' have the power to control her. *cackles evilly*
I like it when you call me that, Baral...*meow* :)
You people are way too fired up about trivial things, seriously. Some of us would be flattered to be called a whore. However, I do realize that there are quite a few people out there that would assume that because there is a female that happens to play the same game that they do that maybe things could swing forth positively and they would have a chance to have sex with said female. This false chivalry is pretty funny considering that the very same people would stoop low enough to make OOC insults against the typists that they disagree with showing their false nobility.
The preceeding has been a public service announcement brought to you by the Shachmir.
We all know Azura Jaren and I are the whores on the block, this nonsense about Gothwin is crazy!!! stay on your own block BITCH!!
I don't mind getting killed by 5 people and arrows, I certainly saw it comming considering that yeah, I do spend a lot of time in Loth, cause it's one of the best gold making places other then Linhir for me. Do I feel like running all the way across Arda just to entertain you? Ummm, not really...
That better, length wise?
Don't make me tag-team with Nescipaal up in here!!
*scoffs at Jaren* first chapter?
Don't make me show you a long comment!!
It seems as if that has been building up for a while Gothwin, glad you let it out. As far as the 'shit talking' goes I was merely retorting to Adunazon's 'You need 5 people and dark arrows' to kill you, hence the logs. As for the rest of your post...well, I don't know, I stopped reading after the first chapter.
Damn, I didn't realize I was supposed to be flattered this whole time!!
*cuddles all his killers, except Raqtor and Feodinur and Julius*
Thanks fellas!
Jaren, you're so full of shit it's not even funny anymore. You pull out two logs of something that happened months and months ago and jack off over it. And now you and your 'friends' finally take me down after what, 4 months of trying and trying and failing and trying? (yes, the world doesn't revolve around you, or you Azura, there are others that attempted me too) Good job.
You bitch about people whining and complaining, yet make yourself look not just totally immature with this log, but pathetic with whatever splutters out of your mouth in your comments. Did you see me complain about dieing even once, or bitch about you sitting in an inn curled up in the corner when all of us are on? No.
Dude, do yourself a favor and stop talking shit all the time. Take a hint from Azura, he talks a lot of shit mixed with a sense of irresistable wit and cunning, but at least he knows what he talks about.
For those that give a damn, I really don't care what flattering insults they throw in the air and don't take it personal. I mean if it was hmm...Rolf or Razor calling me colorful names, I would, just because it's way below their class, but after having dealt with this bullcrap for months you grow a hide, and expect no less from them.
And lastly, Wasach. Yes, it is about respect. I am not going to walk over you or anybody else unless they try to do it with me, which is the reason why at one point I 'OK'd' for my members to loot, steal, and do whatever the heck they want with the FRA (FRA only, mind you). Why? Because they don't deserve any special treatment or respect, and certainly aren't showing any themselves. But before Azura goes 'HAH, told you so', unlike others I have a conscience, and didn't feel it was right for me to punish certain FRA member I do still have _some_ respect for, for something a handful of ego-pricks in their guild feel like doing - cause it's fun! So yes, it was a mistake and it was corrected, and heck I already know I ain't gonna hear the end of it...
Sadly few people even seem to know what respect even is these days. It's all about the kill count, or the power you have over others after having double-tapped someone, thinking you can intimidate them into submission.
'Don't mess with me or me am gonna levelbash you!'
year right...
Tarn, why do you have to be so immature? Whore.
the real problem with this log is the number of fra alts killing someone who is at war with fra.
for real
jaren is my ho
and I'm not making that up
But then again, who needs the facts when you can just make things up!
http://logs.dyndns.dk/viewer.php/1795
http://logs.dyndns.dk/viewer.php/1850
And I think we've attempted Gothwin just once before this kill you read on this log. It's kinda hard to kill an SoU who doesn't go further than Lothlorien and under average shape when theres more than one FRA on, Adunazon ;)
What half-dozen failed attempts on Gothwin? :P I'm being serious, too. There could be ones I don't know about.
Why should he post the failed double tap? Then he'd have to post the half-dozen failed attempts on Gothwin that came before this. Seems rather flattering that you don't think you can kill her without 5 people and dark arrows.
I enjoy reading Azura's comments. :P
And I also think Gothwin is pretty cool. ;)
I just think that the whore part was more like in the heat of the moment, over the thought that he seriously thinks like that.
However Azura, it appears from his Later comments that Theodrek actually _is_ trying to start something. I think he needs to die?
Shut up, whore.
Oh yeah Jaren, that reminds me. I still think you're all being waaaaay overly sensitive about it. If you think Jaren's calling Gothwin a whore means anything, then you're taking it literally, which means that Jaren was trying to make a witty jab at Gothwin's sexual practices. If any of you think Jaren is capable of going through that entire thought process while trying to pkill Gothwin at the same time, then maybe you know something I don't. :P
You're all a bunch of whiny whores.
Okay. So anyway, Lanthanil, if you want to talk about maturity, how about calling someone you don't even know a 'geek' another dozen times. If name calling is the best form of a rational argument you've got, then you're not worth my time. Have I called anyone a single name in any of my rants here?
And Trempk, I'm sorry if 'double-tapping' is such a terrible thing in your mind, but looting, to me, is far worse. And as for threatening people, I DID make a clarification: Theodrek seemed not to be making a comment, but rather to be wanting to start something with me. I don't know why he would want to, but it seems that way. Again I say: If he was really naive enough to ask that question, then I feel sorry for him, as opposed to wanting to kill him.
Thank god. He said they it was Raisin Bran, but I didn't believe him after the time he said I was eating Frosted Flakes, and...well...
*sits next to Duniv in class and LIVES TO TELL ABOUT IT!!* *cheers wildly*
He won't do it again Theo, I used my avenged ess and a blackfang to kill and skin tony, your cornflakes are safe from him now.
Double-tapping:
The Knights don't do it because WE deem it dishonourable and those that do it to be of low character. You want to do it, that's your call but don't call down the thunder if you can't handle the lightning (don't double-tap if you don't want to be double-tapped)
Corpse-looting/claim-jumping:
Two more items that we Knights deem dishonourable for US. You do it, that's your call. We would rather celebrate someone's speed and skill in getting to and starting the quest first.
*ruffles Tarn's hair* ya got that right ya scrawny redneck!! No one insults beer!! (I've reported a few offenders to Dalamar already, grrr)
It comes right down to simple respect for each other in the game. I've had certain people show up at quest during reboot that are enemies, they just *nod* and leave, perhaps exchange a few words of greetings then go. The respected me and that I got there before them and I will do the same to them in return. Allies, well we always give each other a hand during reboot. It's just simple respect and courtesy.
nothing more and nothing less.
Wasach
p.s. DON'T INSULT BEER!!
Tony the Tiger did.
And Theodrek, who crapped in your corn flakes?
I got a better question Trempk? When did double tapping become bad? If you get double tapped, you're a moron. If someone's your enemy, why not kill them more than once? And why not kill them when they're vulnerable? I'm sorry, but if I have a chance to kill someone unarmoured, I'm gonna do it. I won't wait until they get a new hauberk and some healing before I try them again.
Well, I hate to respond, but I guess I'll have to. Just once.
'Name the last time an FRA looted a unique from you, and then you can talk.'
I don't think I can, because it hasn't happened. All they do is get friends to get on alts and corpseloot uniques for them, and then donate it to FRA. And who the fuck is Inquisitor. :P
Wasach, you better not sit next to me in class today. Seriously, I'll kill you.
Be nice, Adrian! We all know you don't study enough. (insane grin)
I got a better suggestion, but its a secret
suggestions, disguise moral
suggestions, dream phial, and a prerented tent (ack, thats lame, just break in linhir)
yea, I'm the lowest of the low, I go haha when I kill someone or woo! or something creative
and lanthanil does have a point azura... you've been around here a long fucking time
oh well, its just a game (*gasp* a game!) oh and I'd call people whores also if I wanted to insult them, after all it is an insult
so long its just sexist, no racist or homophobic insults or things that talk about your mom dad, cows, beer (definatly no beer insults, at least me and wasach can agree on that), slugs, draguluin, weasels, underage binge drinking (thats fun), jaren, avaar, pigs, gothwin
but we can insult duniv cause we can
Lets make sure this doesn't get out of hand.
D
When did looting a piece of equipment become worse than double tapping? And since when are people so sensitive to comments on the log page that they are going to have someone pkilled in the mud? Shit, this is OOC, isn't it? Hope i didn't break my RP with this comment. I apologize to Nogothrim for my character being able to speak in another world (which could never happen in Tolkien's).
hah! my Bday is in the same month as Gothwins!
Im special! your not!
End of comments.
I found azura's comments funny. hehe.
Or maybe this whole argument which has quickly turned into a slagging match is totally pointless! I'm quite sure Gothwin is mature enough to dismiss what Jaren said, and doesn't need people to stick up for her like this.
Just a general question, Azura. Why was I attempted so rarely when I was still playing? I mean, I was nearly always out of guild hall. Was it an inactive period for FRA? I don't think it was my 'incredible skill'. Oh, and Gothwin is super nice. I talk to her on instant messenger all the time. Tell her to stop smoking though. Jaren says: 'STOP SMOKING! YOU WILL GET LUNG CANCER!'
In the climate of this game, it's not so out of place. For example, if I killed Jaren, I might say something like. 'Izzowned, biatch!' Wait, no, I wouldn't say that, but some people might.
Jaren is a whore. I'm not sure why, but it seems a logical thing to say, no?
you know, if Gothwin really had a problem with being called a whore, you'd think she'd be here telling the people exactly how she feels.
Or maybe she doesn't feel the need to because everyone else has over-reacted and acted like it was crime of the century to call your mortal enemy a whore.... *shrug*
and actually azura, i think maturity was shown by me by knowing that it is a GAME and the character i was using was a piece of fucking code that doesn't mean jack shit to me and that you shouldn't give 2 shits about. geek
Well Jaren, you know, you should learn how to speak to ladies, it would be very usefull in your social life... :P
Seriously, guys, I know that on these muds, let's say 75% of the females are actually shemales, so it doesn't really matters for them to be called whore or bitch because it just hasn't the same weight...(and because they usually do take serious advantages of 'her' positions)
But sometimes it happens that there are real females playing over here, like Lady Gothwin or I, and to be called bith or whore is definitly _really_ insulting.
And it's not because you guys are used to call each other that way, for joking, that it is less serious for us.
Now I've never taken this game too seriously, and if I feel some hate, that's only my char who hates another char and I have kept no *real* hard feelings toward anyone.
Though, when someone insults me that way, I do extend to take it seriously and I must say there is a real part of me getting angry behind the screen, and if Zoso were in front of me when our quarrel happend and when he was very nasty, well the guy woul have become a shemale as well for sure! :P
Anyway, I'm beginning to be boring again, but still, I guess it's like you guys being called fags, I know some males do take it very seriously to be called that way (though some don't), let's say that it's just likewise for us ladies to be insulted of whore and stuff...
So yes Azura, it's pretty worst to say *Whore* toward someone than *shit* or even *fuck*, because that's just humiliating, and a harm to someone's dignity...
Just think a minute of the meaning of the words you employ, that's ok to let loose one's emotions, I'm the first to defend this conception, because i'ts basically a game and games are done to free one's inner violence.
Just don't forget that there are also typists behind the characters.
Maybe you guys just need some lessons of civilities? :P
azura, chill the fuck out. i don't need a char i levelled myself to know that calling a female a whore is bad, you certainly spend enough time on t2t that you have no idea what being with a female is about you fucking geek. i was lanth for 4 or 5 years, and i knew warrax was logging our conversation and didn't care if i got nuked, know why azura? because this game isn't my life and i don't need to create like 20 characters to fill that desperate void in my fucking life that you seem to have, levelling characters sucks and i have neither the time nor inclination to learn how to master like you, once again, you are a geek
Also, PS: Who the hell is a nuked cheater to be dubbing things 'not cool?' How about 'it's not cool for you and Klardin to attempt to pk a character that I actually created and play, while you get your character from someone else.' You could use a little maturity yourself, Lanthanil. Spare me the theatrics in the meantime.
I'm fired up tonight. Anyone else want to say something dumb?
A few points of clarification.
1) Gothwin is 'honorable,' and she's also the SoU GM that OK'd looting of FRA uniques. Yay for 'honor.' And don't give me the 'but FRA does it all the time!' bullshit. Name the last time an FRA looted a unique from you, and then you can talk.
2) Dizm's arrow actually did hit, but she shook off the effects.
3) Yes, I did make a threat on Theodrek's life because of his comment. I don't know, it just seemed like he was, for some reason, attempting to start something with me. Perhaps I'm wrong and he's just really that naive, at which point I'm sorry. I guess.
4) Jesus christ. Stop flipping out about the word 'WHORE.' You're allowed to say 'shit' on the global comm, and I'd take 'DIE WHORE' over 'shit' any day. It's a game. People get excited, the let go of their emotions. I didn't realize that I would need to censor the log for all of the crazy zealots out there, but in the future, I'll screen such insults out so they don't burn your fragile eyes.
oh and btw, Gothwin certainly doesn't deserve to be called those kind of names. She's one of the few SoU that is looked at as honourable by more than just the people in her Guild...
Jaren, I'd have said this in game had I read the log before...
I've got to agree with the nuked one there, that wasn't cool man. Think about why you are killing SoU...be better than them bud, come on. You don't want people thinking you are like Adunazon and Tarn do you? I know full well their witty post-gangbang monologues, certainly more colorfull than yours but why descend to their level. I know you are better than them, so act like it.
Just some advice from a friendly neighbor, take it or leave but don't be mad at it :)
Wasach
Uh, Theodrek, people don't generally post failed kills. It's this funny habit that EVERYONE ON THE GODDAMN ARCHIVE has. I don't even post it when SoU fails kills on me. The running total is 3 attempts, I think. If Dizm's arrow would have hit her in the second attempt, she'd have gone down again. I'm not in it for the 'what ifs,' though. Maybe I'll post a log of me getting a hauberk sometime too, just so you can see the boring and uneventful stuff that happens. Now, I really don't know what the motive behind your semi-smug and semi-retarded comment was, but if you'd like me to post something 'important,' I'm sure there's a contract on you somewhere. :)
Kilth enters.
Now that's skills!
All those new names...
In response to theodreks post, why should he post attempts? people in general doesnt like reading attempts....why? cause they happen all the time
What's so suprising about that?
I'm just surprised Azura didn't find it important enough to post how they tried to double tap after...
ya know dude, calling someone a whore is not cool even they are in a guild you are in a war with, grow up dude.
The best part was my witty post-kill monologue.