I have this funny idea that people dont think before they consider new ideas. This kinda upsets me seing that the last chance the little guys have of getting back at the big guys who violate them is about to be torn apart. And this is only cause theese people want to know who contracts them. Well of cause we all do ;-) Lets just forget the side effects.
Case # 2005 Idea: Bribing to learn who placed contracts (vote proposed)
Rhoads reported [Tue Dec 17 08:29:55 2002]:
Greetings members of the Mortal Council
I have been thinking about the following idea for quite some time and
after
talking to some people it was asked that I shared with you all. I know it
might be a little polemical, specialy to assassins, but it could make the
game a little more interesting and reduce the harassing by constant
contracts.
I think it would be interesting if either there are no more anonymous
contracs
or that when you buy it off, for an extra fee, you could see the name of
the
one who placed it. How could this help the game at all? Well, easily, at
first
it would reduce the harassing of players with contracts, a contract of
course
dosen't (or at least almost dosen't) affect the life of a high level char
who
is at least an avarage player, but for the rest, it surely does. I have
seen
characters getting destroyed by contracts for no reason at all. There is
a
char who is level 7 by now and everytime she log's on she has a new C
placed
on her head. Take a notice that she is a nice person and we know the
contractor
is doing this just to piss off and make her stop playing. As a level 7
she
praticaly stands no chance at all agains't the killers, specialy if he is
higher level. Please notice that this is just an example. Right now the
PoL
only consider SOME cases like that as harassment and it is a little hard
to
handle since usualy people contract with several diferent chars to make
it
seem like there are a lot of people contracting, when behind all that
there is
only one typist.
Another thing that this would proly stop is how people play with
contracts.
Contracts are IC things yet are treated like an OOC feature. I have seem
people
do more or less like this: Player X interacts with player Y, player Y
dosen't
like it so he get's on as his thief Z and places a contract on player X,
after
that, when the contract is matured, player Y get's on with Zero, his
assassin
char and goes after player X. I don't know how you all see that, for some
might
be normal but what I see is a missuse of the contracting system. So, in
theory
people would stop doing that to not reveal their alts.
I think it would be more interesting if you discovered who placed the
contract
when you buy it off and pay an extra fee, but anyway I included those two
idea.
Enjoy.
Rhoads Redbeard Antragon - Marshal of Helm's Deep
Lukas [Tue Dec 17 09:12:30 2002]:
I'm for this idea.
The only problem that i see here is balance.
Grima would loose it's credibility if such data would leak out.
I'm aware that it's not impossible.. but just look at Grima...
how much would you have to bribe him?
a) maybe he doesn't like elves ?
b) maybe he's pissed on servants of the Hand?
c) maybe he's just greedy?
d) maybe he has weak memory?
e) maybe he values his life a bit?
There are many ways to conveine man to speak... why not let
people have them here.
Lukas
Deboraha [Wed Dec 18 06:27:58 2002]:
I like it. I think it should cost a fortune, but I like it.
Arthlor [Wed Dec 18 13:46:21 2002]:
Strangely, I like this idea, too. If you make the bribe cost as much as
the contract, that would encourage larger contracts, too.
Art
Redival [Thu Dec 26 10:27:56 2002]:
I think Rhoads' idea brings up some interesting ideas. Indeed, it would
be neat if you're spending so much to buy off a contract anyway to be
able to learn who placed it. My main concern would be for the segment of
people whom the contract system benefits most - the lowbies who have no
other means of revenge. I know this isn't the primary population using
the contract system, but in my mind it is the redeeming factor. Worst
case scenario: Bob the dunedain Bushwhacker gets killed in a random
"practice" pk. Saves up for a few hours, and manages to scrape up 1.5k or
so to put on the guy who did it. Then the bit-shot player comes, buys off
the contract and says "aha! It was Bob who placed it, I'll make an
example of him" and goes out and kills Bob a couple more times. Now, I
know this is an extreme example and I'm not against the idea of being
able to pay to find out who contracted you. I just think it would be good
to examine all of the implications of implementing something like this.
The contract system is a great equalizer in this game and any major
changes to it should be carefully thought out.
Redival Pharanor, Edoras rep
Deboraha [Sun Dec 29 14:25:19 2002]:
I would like to propose the following vote in this case:
Ref. MC 2005: Should the Council pursue the idea in this case
for players being able to bribe to learn who has placed thier
contracts?