A farewell to Fangorn

Posted by
Ketan [legacy]
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03 January 2003 00:00:00
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This is a system echo that sums things up pretty well.

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    Delgaur [legacy]
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    06 January 2003 11:45:03

    We did in fact try that Ketan.
    But Osse messed up the code for our armoury. any old joe could walk in and take stuff! :p
    So we had to restricted it to member only in the end! *mutter*

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    Jasumin [legacy]
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    06 January 2003 09:01:35

    So you think Darkjasumin would be a bad name?

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    Fimbu [legacy]
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    06 January 2003 02:13:36

    I know Darkbeat as another one of those people who think it's cool to have 'Dark' in the front of their names. Yeesh :)

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    Ketan [legacy]
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    06 January 2003 00:21:03

    You have a village? All I've ever seen is an old man and a stable. Be cool and make it open to the public, it's the latest craze!

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    Delgaur [legacy]
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    05 January 2003 22:58:55

    dam u got a Village! i guess you saw the Beornings had such a great village you just had to follow suit! :p

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    Ketan [legacy]
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    05 January 2003 20:05:41

    Dude, Darkbeat...none of us even know who you are, let alone remember ever trying to kill you. I'm sure you've got this little thing going in your head where we keep attempting you and failing, and then we all laugh and say 'Oooh, that Darkbeat got us again! We'll get him one of these days!'...but in actuality, I don't think a single member of either the FRA or the DH knows who you are. Or cares.

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    Alorian [legacy]
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    05 January 2003 06:32:50

    hi, im drunk...i tried to kill you darkbeat once with an fra, but you never left your guildhall except to kill tower guards

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    Longfinger [legacy]
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    05 January 2003 05:27:44

    Umm if you had common sense you'd believe us when we say we're not allied with Saruman. Saruman's staff and power is broken.. he's not a force to be reckoned with. We are.

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    Theodrek [legacy]
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    05 January 2003 04:29:26

    So give out some hints to your theme and we'll stop guessing, oh mighty kemo-sabe. Because if you don't, then I'll go by common-logic and reason that you dunlendings are allied with Saruman.

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    Jaren [legacy]
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    05 January 2003 04:01:46

    I have a better idea, Darkbeat. Why don't you shut the fuck up and stop talking shit as an ainu you fucking clown, or demort and I'll show you how pathetic we are.

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    Darkbeat [legacy]
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    05 January 2003 03:57:19

    Nevermind. as long as you guys got removed its a good thing :-P

    I wasn't very liked by some of you guys....thats all...

    made more money on those pathetic attepts (plenty) than then pk you made on me(none that is) :P

    btw, POST what the new theme is about!

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    Fimbu [legacy]
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    05 January 2003 03:35:12

    Theodrek: You keep saying we're aligned with Saruman. We're not.

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    Borkaz [legacy]
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    05 January 2003 02:56:26

    a question: what does Daen Hecil mean? (the name)

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    Tyfus [legacy]
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    05 January 2003 01:00:26

    Never heard of him, but he is apperently some maia

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    Jaren [legacy]
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    05 January 2003 00:55:12

    Who the fuck is Darkbeat? :P

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    Darkbeat [legacy]
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    05 January 2003 00:52:46

    Wheeeeeheeeeeeee!
    FRA gone? Like a dream come true :-P
    Will you guys still be as power hungry as before with the new guild?
    Oh well, maybe I won't be as disliked in this one as the new one
    since your old theme is gone. (Not that I think you care)
    You think you could kill me with a new guild? or maybe four or five
    as 'good' as FRA that is?
    The only good thing about FRA is that they used to fill my accounts.
    Personally I don't know any of the FRA but Fimbu seems cool though.

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    Theodrek [legacy]
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    05 January 2003 00:37:45

    Well, you're dunlendings. Last time I checked, you're a dunlending guild. And you're... *gasp* Immoral. And you kill in Edoras. Of course, maybe I'm wrong?

    'I wasn't saying 'Go educate yourself, Theodrek', I was saying 'shut up and don't say anything, Theodrek'.'

    I wasn't saying 'I know what your guild is about.' I was saying that 'I don't care if you tell me to shut up, because I'm not talking to you.' :)

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    Wasach [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 23:49:28

    bahunnnggggg!! fuck this, I apologize to everyone. A couple years of being IN the Guild system is a little hard to get over. Strike my comments from the record. Fuck it all, I'm out of the Guild system and I don't want to be a part of shit like this. Once again, my apologies...it's just not worth it.

    *wave*

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    Jasumin [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 23:34:51

    I think the ainur should take all evil guilds, and all good guilds, and combine them into two guilds. Good guys and Evil Guys. That way it wouldn't appear that you have more choices than you do. Really in the end the only thing that changes when switching between guilds of the same align is cosmetic things.

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    Longfinger [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 23:20:37

    umm no.. thats optional.. or it used to be.. you'll find out after a while.

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    Alorian [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 22:39:24

    heh, guild documents? you're part of arda. last i checked, the theme of guilds affects arda and the structure of guilds as a whole, and they were supposed to be public info.

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    Fimbu [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 22:21:00

    Guild documents aren't for the public to read - I wasn't saying 'Go educate yourself, Theodrek', I was saying 'shut up and don't say anything, Theodrek'.

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    Jaren [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 22:09:18

    Turns out we didn't need a ring to rule the world ;) And I'd have you know Martok, that I was arrogant, power hungry and high on myself long before I even joined FRA!

    --J

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    Alorian [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 20:35:01

    so, um, how about you post your theme?

    (HP:190 EP:135) help guild_daen_hecil
    There is no help available on that topic.

    inform people so they dont say stupid stuff. can't blame someone for being ignorant when you wont give them the information to be otherwise :P

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    Martok [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 20:30:45

    You know if you really look at it FRA theme and rp was far beyound all of ours. Every member who ever joined fra became a power hungry (high on themselves )character, which is exactly what the ring would do, kinda ironic isn't it:)

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    Fimbu [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 18:23:56

    It's surprising how knowledgable Theodrek is about the Daen Hecil considering he obviously hasn't read their theme. Oh wait, he's not knowledgable about them. He's making stuff up again!

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    Theodrek [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 17:55:42

    Ehh...

    'Boromir didn't want to destroy the ring, Saruman didn't want to destroy the ring, Sauron didn't want to destroy the ring....thats 3 sides of a circle....couldn't be the entire theme right?'

    Well...lemme see what Wasach said again...

    'or regaining the property lost in battle (Sauron).'
    and
    'Even Saruman was working (under a false assumption on his part) WITH sauron.'

    I'll admit. Saruman deceived Sauron (as I saw it) and wanted the ring for his own use. Which is what I think the FRA's theme was. Get the ring, dominate the world under your own terms and not Sauron's. So that would put FRA in the same place as Boromir was. Though, his want for the ring was from the want of good and honesty, for his people to stop dying. FRA just wanted it to rule the world. Damnit. I was writing this and parents came by and all of that and I got like four random christmas presents that totally threw me off and I don't know where I am now. Something about FRA used to have theme, and now they're in a better position for theme although they'll still be fighting immorals seeing as they're aligned with Saruman, who was against everyone...morals (Edoras and Minas Tirith) and immorals (when Saruman opposed Sauron)...so...eh...where was I? Damnit. And who the HELL gives you, as a Christmas present, a Christian sampler CD and a 101 piece screw driver set? Blah.

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    Longfinger [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 17:37:40

    ownage :D

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    Nogothrim [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 17:18:45

    Longfinger...You have never played t2t you have just read mails and logs about other people playing it. You werent a factor back in the FRA i'm talking about. You just read notes and i'm sure marsellus wouldnt write notes like 'Well i'm gonna try to use my ainur connections to get him nuked for harassment or spamkilling since we cant fight him any other way'. (I lost 2 maxed chars)
    You dont have any idea what you are talking about. If you did then you would know how many FRA i killed and the tactics FRA utilizied to 'fight back'. Thats why only I could see the BLARING IRONY in Jaren's statement. Well, I'm done trying to explain things on this logpage. I wont post a comment ever again.
    One last thing, Longfinger. It is possible to change this game by playing it. You have just NEVER tried.

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    Jaren [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 15:43:55

    What book was Wasach reading? Sure doesn't sound like LoTR to me :P

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    Fimbu [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 14:44:46

    Wasach obviously has a very elementary understanding of the book :P

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    Longfinger [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 13:47:30

    Wasach, grow a brain then read the books again. You might understand
    what the ring is about and what it represents. _Everyone_ save Tom
    Bombadil is tempted by the ring. It's a miracle that Frodo could keep it so long and the reason for that is that Hobbits aren't as power hungry as other races.

    Regardless. I havent seen any old FRA's whining. I think all of us are as happy as me with the new village and our new guild.

    And Nogo, we never got our asses kicked and you know it. Even you with your lifelong hatred and constant bitching only dared to challenge us once. And it didnt go your way.. if you were the wonderful player you always have to tell everyone you meet, how come you never managed to do the least bit of damage?

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    Shachmir [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 09:14:09

    Boromir didn't want to destroy the ring, Saruman didn't want to destroy the ring, Sauron didn't want to destroy the ring....thats 3 sides of a circle....couldn't be the entire theme right?

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    Wasach [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 07:37:44

    okay Direkein, we've talked before on this issue and I've known how YOU feel about the change. However, it's so very evident that plenty of people dislike these particular type of changes and always act or voice out against virtually every change to the mud. I am fully prepared to acknowledge that this new form of your Guild may actually be interested in thematic rp.

    Let me stress that phrase, THEMATIC rp. I've tried to explain this before, rp is what you do just by logging in, thematic rp is logging on and basing your char's rp closely tied to the books.

    Saying that 'The FRA's purpose was to claim the One Ring. Maybe you didn't pay attention to the books, but it just kind of, barely had a similar theme.' The theme of the books was the DESTRUCTION of The One Ring (this is the 'good' guys) or regaining the property lost in battle (Sauron). There were no, let me repeat...NO independent groups seeking to gain the ring for themselves. Even Saruman was working (under a false assumption on his part) WITH sauron.

    Now you could say that I've never dealt with the FRA as a guild, never really had too. Yes I don't like most of your members because they are pompous assholes who think they can gorilla everyone around through fear and intimidation. Some of your members I do like and I do respect. I have NEVER agreed with the basis of the FRA in the game. This isn't something I just cooked up recently.

    I'm glad for the change, I'm sure you will enjoy battling all these moral Guilds out there.

    The little blurb you brought out from that old RP log of KoDA...was AFTER I left the Guild. Not only that but I wouldn't have been in that log even if I had been a member. No that isn't how I define my play, I don't know how to define my play anymore. Everyone is everyone elses enemy these days. Of course on the other hand, that was the closest this game has ever seen to an authentic military action. I mean the communication was rather sloppy, the formation had severe rigidity and the ability to concentrate lethal force in a specific direction was good, the inability to change direction to react to a new threat was very low.

    and for the record alot of people on the mud IN GENERAL are whiny bitches when it comes to changes (any change) to the mud and they DON'T STOP BITCHING FOR YEARS!! There are people that are still bitching about changes made before I even started playing 3.5 years ago. Ok, so if you are a whiny bitch please feel free to be offended by my previous statement. If you don't feel you are a whiny bitch then don't be. My previous statement wasn't directed particularly at the Guild formerly known as the FRA.

    and for the record, it took me forever to write this because I am watching this movie 100 Girls which was funny as shit.

    but I'm done now.

    I'll look your Guild up when I return and we'll battle around. It'll be fun. Until then...*wave*

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    Jasumin [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 06:06:38

    I was never particularly a fan of FRA, and though I think this change will make Arda interesting, I can't seem to understand why the game has to change toward something that only half or less than half of the players here enjoy.

    It's like their trying to force roleplaying down your throat. The whole purpose of any kind of 'roleplaying' game is to play a role you want to play, and not be forced to play a certain one. To be honest, t2t is limited in choices already, but now if you want to join a guild you are limited to two choices. Good or evil. It seems like it doesn't really matter what guild you choose, because you will be playing one of a mere two roles.

    Of course people will say I'm wrong. But it would seem to me that the game is moving towards a hardcore RP mud, which of course, only benefits a fraction of the Playerbase.

    BTW, it's nice to see enemies agree for once.

    The game should be about fun, but apparently it's about the fun of the Hardcore RP people, and screw the rest.

    I stopped caring long ago though. They will never force me to conform to their way of playing, period.

    -Jas

    P.S. Sorry for ranting like a half-crazed lunatic. I'm actually a whole-crazed lunatic.

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    Direkein [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 05:34:29

    Whiny bitches....hmm. Yeah, I personally like the change Wasach, it puts us in a position to be mortal enemies with Amruin and its allies (like Valacircans and KoDA) which is much better than the time we've spent the last few months killing evil aligned guilds' members. I can't wait to start shit with you, lets see who the 'whiny bitch' is in a month indeed. It will be nice to have a purpose. Normally you aren't...so why be a dumb fuck now? Obviously cleaning out a bunch of npc's in Osgiliath and saying shit like, 'Thank you Captain, is our rear secured?' or 'guard the flank we don't want to fall to the foul orc horde' gives you a purpose in Arda? Is that how you define your play? The FRA's purpose was to claim the One Ring. Maybe you didn't pay attention to the books, but it just kind of, barely had a similar theme. So take that 'purpose' and shove it up your ass. If you want to make a personal attack, make a personal attack. If you hate the FRA, say you hated it cause you got killed, or because we are/were assholes, or whatever. Don't use a lame ass excuse like theme to hide behind, because in my perception FRA had every bit as good of a theme as any guild in Arda did. Its all fucking nonsense you're talking.

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    Wasach [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 04:19:29

    What combined powers of Arda? Jeez, your guild had no fucking purpose in the game. I can understand how you guys are all upset and hurt that you've had to change your theme..let's just hope you guys are still whiny bitches a month from now.

    I can't believe how adverse to change the players of this game are, it's fucking insane I tell you!!

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    Bakal [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 03:54:04

    I like his asshole attitude... it's refreshing.

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    Talan [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 03:37:50

    Dont you ever get tired of playing the jaded i'm better than everyone badass type role Nogothrim? Dont you ever ...like...once maybe want to stop being an asshole?

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    Nogothrim [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 01:37:51

    Or maybe you are talking trash to the newbies and not to me *shrug*

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    Nogothrim [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 01:24:59

    And Jaren...plz...FRA got the living shit kicked out of them MANY times during thier history.

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    Nogothrim [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 01:24:15

    Its great to see something Marsellus had a hand in creating be destroyed. Anyway this is a great change. Old FRA had no natural enemies so members just decided to pk whoever crossed them or whoever they wanted, which, if you arent a fucking pussy should be done as a CLAN not a GUILD. Hopefully DH will hunt in 'rp combat'...then i'll toss some props there way.

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    Feldon [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 01:04:17

    if only we had an arda v1 port.... I'm curious to see what would happen and how much peeps would play each

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    Fimbu [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 00:49:07

    Theodrek, you're a fucking moron :P

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    Theodrek [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 00:42:45

    Gotta make way for progress. Get out of the way or get trampled. I just find it funny that in this situation, the Ents were progress...so, since FRA is now Saruman's Dunlendings, does this mean an even more mortal-enemy status with SoU?

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    Jaren [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 00:22:32

    And the Ents suceed in a task that the combined powers of Arda could never accomplish. Ain't that a bitch ;)

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    Talan [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 00:11:31

    Another bullshit change to arda...completely unnecessary and worthless. I'm sorry to see it go this way.

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    Nirrab [legacy]
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    04 January 2003 00:02:44

    We wish Lupin :P

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    Feldon [legacy]
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    03 January 2003 23:18:24

    It sucks, but then again FRA is pretty dumb anyway.

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    Lupin [legacy]
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    03 January 2003 22:23:42

    Sucks to see another old guild go, they need arda v1 on another port or something.

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    Sarys [legacy]
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    03 January 2003 22:17:54

    That's awful. My alias from Adornas to the hauberk area is called a-dh, **BUT NOW I CAN'T HAVE AN ALIAS WITH THE SAME NAME THAT TAKES ME FROM ADORNAS TO THE DH GH.**

    :p

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    Therigion [legacy]
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    03 January 2003 18:44:31

    Fellowship of Rimbor-Anim -> FRA
    Daen-Hecil -> DH ?

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    Rhoads [legacy]
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    03 January 2003 17:11:29

    and hell is unleashed :P

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    Longfinger [legacy]
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    03 January 2003 12:23:03

    Yeah well sort of.. but then our hall just got moved 1 room or so :)

    this is sort of different..

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    Sarys [legacy]
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    03 January 2003 12:03:50

    Ok, I'm a newbie and stuff, but that one looks awfully familiar. Didn't the same thing happen a long while ago, when Marsellus was GM?

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    Longfinger [legacy]
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    03 January 2003 10:42:39

    whee

    cool i have to log in

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    Kilth [legacy]
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    03 January 2003 10:41:16

    My best wishes to the new guild... now don't wreck it =P

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    Rush [legacy]
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    03 January 2003 10:20:30

    it's a shame that theme is considered more important then fun.