Honor at its best

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Nichodemus [legacy]
Uploaded
23 February 2003 00:00:00
Type
Player Kill

Deceit, dishonor, death. Ahh, fun. After I left SoU, Gothwin thought it was appropriate to lie to me and have me make gold with a friend and in turn be deceived. I love my life.

Comments

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    Skyman [legacy]
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    15 April 2003 22:07:09

    Holy shit people, this was only one death. Why so many comments?

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    Rondo [legacy]
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    13 March 2003 03:03:46

    Nichodemus could...go...all...the...way!! Score team Nicho!

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    Asgrim [legacy]
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    26 February 2003 07:54:47

    Date: 25. Feb, 2003, 3:51:35 By: Martok
    *rotfl at Asgrim* I finally figured it out, btw did you put all my stealing alias's to good use? fucking wannabe

    In response to that. Fuck you. You got all your shit from Peanut. Now who's a fucking wannabe? Idiot.

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    Wasach [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 19:56:17

    For the record,

    no one smells like you do Dwain. Ulfang, himself, betrayed his 'friends and allies', so how was what the Sons OF Ulfang did wrong?

    see you all in 30 days or so...maybe.
    ~Wasach

    *calls in the vetrinarian to pronounce this particular horse VERY fucking dead*

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    Delgaur [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 16:52:25

    can - cant

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    Delgaur [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 16:52:12

    you can blame him for killing Azbakhar
    I mean, dam, Nich was actually RUNNING away and trying to break him :p
    Azbakhar kinda killed himself :p

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    Paraiko [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 16:39:01

    Well it does mean something, but not in determining just how much you can ignore Gothwin's orders.

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    Paraiko [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 16:37:58

    And I doubt Galaad would have locked up an Amruin and then demanded he give over his equipment or be killed, so how long you have been in the guild before you were admitted means little. You were an initiate when you started stealing equipment to give to Rondo, and no one really doubted that you continued to do so after promising not to, but we let the matter drop.

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    Paraiko [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 16:34:26

    Nicho, I was standing IN THE ROOM with you when you promised you would not kill anyone without first getting Gothwin's approval, and then you go out and kill Azbakhar. That is lying, and that is also disobeying.

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    Longfinger [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 15:28:39

    I agree with Nogothrim (that's a first I think) being mean and betraying people is what Saurons servants do. Stop pretending like you're nice guys. And if you're not pretending, stop being nice guys :)

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    Boffo [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 07:46:14

    Nice picture Kilth!
    (Actually, I don't know how to check pics, but I'm sure it's nice)

    Well said, Barberi!

    Zoso, I also like cookies. They are good.

    As far as pkilling someone in a way that might not be fair... plenty of players have long looked at items and locations that might help make the perfect kill. Some of these methods, over the years were pure genious, and some of these methods were perhaps abuse of Code and Valinor put a stop to it somehow.

    To fall out of friendship with someone, but feign friendship long enough to lead someone somewhere dangerous and then make the kill isn't really any worse than blinding someone with lit brands and then shooting them with a sleep arrow.

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    Martok [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 04:08:06

    *WOOOS* but dont' mind me I am feeling good tonight!!!

    *YEEEEEEEHAWWWWWWWS*

    now, I must step out, I got some nice youngens waiting for some lovens

    I am trying to compete with Rendor on the youngens part. *WINKS*

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    Martok [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 03:51:35

    *rotfl at Asgrim* I finally figured it out, btw did you put all my stealing alias's to good use? fucking wannabe

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    Martok [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 03:46:52

    Thats horse shit Nichodemus, I know you, and I know how you act, you fucked up, decided that you had no other option then to leave SOU. Because they wouldn't let you do exactly what you wanted, and now you are trying to get into DH. The fact that they even are considering this, *BOGGLES my fucking mind*

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    Orlandu [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 03:43:26

    I think he was security. The police would not been so nice to us. The old bastard prolly blew them off that night at his house anyway.

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    Fimbu [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 03:36:45

    The police officer played Smash brothers? Was he any good?

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    Asgrim [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 03:10:01

    Karios, lets remember the time a lot of us were at Toto's house on the 4th of July. Mitch and Orlandu light bottle rockets from outside Toto's front door, and the Police officer comes right over. Everyone is either, stoned or drunk. That was fun. All playing super smash brothers. Haha. Good stuff.

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    Azbakhar [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 03:06:57

    Must've been fun.

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    Nildnab [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 02:43:48

    Hey.. you forgot running the stop signs and making right hand turns in the wrong lane.. and you thought I couldnt pull it off!!!!
    *chuckles

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    Nyssa [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 02:43:39

    A bit late perhaps for me to comment but I haven't read the log page in months.

    Nichodemus knows the rules of our guild. Anyone who leaves the guild dies. Nicho, you cannot tell me you were surprised to be killed. How many times have you taken part in the slaying of a member who left?

    There is no question about his dedication to the guild and his past with us. But the fact of the matter is, he has let his alleged past accomplishments get to his head - his arrogance was his downfall. And in the end, his loyaty was not about being part of the guild but for his own personal gain.

    Don't twist this into some cruel action or a betrayl of friendship. You betrayed SoU first.

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    Karios [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 02:42:48

    It was this past Halloween and myself, Deadlok, Nildnab and another one of my rl friends were going to head up to Santa Barbara. Nildnab was driving and as we were getting onto the onramp of the freeway near my house, I guess he decided the Mac truck in front of us was going to slow around the onramp turn. So Nild decides to gun it around the truck, careening over the curb through the turn, mashing the gas and when we got around the truck and came down from the little curb, the back end of the stang almost slid out which would have sent us straight into the wall, and stopped directly in front of the Mac truck. Luckily, Nild was able to correct it and we enjoyed the rest of our night getting faded in Santa Barbara. Quite a scare. :)

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    Nichodemus [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 02:41:54

    Paraiko, for the record, you are a stupid fuck. I did not 'lie and disobey' and shit all the time like you claim. Stop glorifying yourselves. Point is: SoU wouldn't defend me against people who were giving me a hard time. That's what I get for my dedication. Let's recap. How long have I been in SoU? Oh. Since Galaad. I think I earned the right to be pissed. Get your head out of your ass.

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    Azbakhar [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 02:30:12

    I do too.

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    Bakal [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 02:26:05

    I want to here the Mustang GT story :P

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    Karios [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 02:00:42

    Or even better, trying to go around a Mac truck on an onramp in a Mustang GT by going over a curb and damn near losing control and almost taking Deadlok and Karios with you, right Nildnab? :)

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    Nildnab [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 01:42:22

    Than it should have been done properly... Lock them up in the guildmasters/mistress room and given and solo execution, **Durm style**.

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    Orlandu [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 01:39:42

    And stop calling me a kid. I'm 19 years old damnit ;p

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    Orlandu [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 01:38:53

    Karios, I didn't insult you, I tried to state a fact and you took it in an insulting manner. And don't remind me of that night in San Luis. I never should have drank beer, taken shots and drank more beer. Bad combo!

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    Paraiko [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 01:21:11

    This kill was supposed to be one of poetic justice, abusing Nichodemus' trust just like he abused ours. If any of you are too dense to see that, then it's your loss. It was perfectly planned and executed. Obviously most of you can't know just how both blatantly and surreptitiously Nichodemus disobeyed orders at every turn, but that's another reason for you to just accept this kill as an execution and move on, since you can't understand the motivation behind it.

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    Delgaur [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 01:00:09

    you people dont think this is entertainment! i love it ! :p
    Makes a good read during working hours :D

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    Nildnab [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 01:00:03

    FDL... I was told that story like 20 times and laughed everytime I heard it.

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    Karios [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 00:45:46

    Oh and Orlandu you were the one that started with the insults, so If you cant take them dont dish 'em out kid.

    Like the time you got drunk and puked all over Toto's couch like a friggin' junior high student. Lame ass. Haha.

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    Karios [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 00:41:43

    I'm not trying to give this world shit. I could care less as a matter of fact. The reputation of the character means what to me? Heh, I have far more to worry about in my life than this bullshit. I initially came here to defend Gothwin, because the description of the log was wrongfully negative towards her. Its not my fault all the little idiots around here are making a big deal out of something so insignificant.

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    Bakal [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 00:29:38

    I'm sorry Ketan. I was completely out of line. I have more respect for you as a person than nearly any other player here.

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    Nogothrim [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 00:19:36

    Thats just my opinion *shrug*.

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    Tarn [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 00:09:39

    oh and you guys all suck and need to die

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    Tarn [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 00:09:21

    wait a sec, is Orlandu durms gm now?

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    Nogothrim [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 00:05:34

    Yes, Trempk, in my mind this was a perfect RP kill by Karios. Its just too bad he went off and tried to justify it. It makes him look like a complete homo who is scared people wont like him. He should accept his role as a Son of Ulfang and give this world a true villain.

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    Nildnab [legacy]
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    25 February 2003 00:01:38

    Orlandu you forgot Prophet you Asshole!

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    Martok [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 23:40:51

    The locking up part was pretty low, they should of just gangbanged the shit out of him( or soloed for that matter) and end of it. As I said before, you did the same shit to others Nichodemus. And now that you were active in the pk department you expected to get away with it?

    Right

    they should of nailed your ass to the wall 5times. Thats what you deserved.

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    Orlandu [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 23:34:55

    I never had anyone kicked out of Durms other then Karios and Tanis. Quit spreading rumors Karios. And I am no 'ubernewbie'. I am not the best player on this mud and I never said I was good either, but I know the mud pretty good. Insulting me does no good, cause I don't give a damn about what you say. Grow up quit being so damn immature and act like your age for once.

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    Martok [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 23:33:18

    I seem to remember being in SOU and faris got killed. I took out the killers and you did the exact same thing Gothwin and Adunazon did, so fuck off nichodemus, dont' cry you got what you deserved dip shit.

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    Trempk [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 23:30:02

    Was this not a perfect display of RP, Nogo? :P

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    Nildnab [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 22:25:35

    I took a liking into Lmno's char picture.

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    Nogothrim [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 21:55:13

    Orlandu booted Canton from Durmanhoth? hahah thats almost as hilarious as Gothwin deciding who lives and who dies.

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    Hobson [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 21:55:03

    This thread is amazingly pathetic. Does this game really mean so much to all you involved that you have to throw insults at each other? You people really need to sit back, read this stupid blather you're all posting, and realize just how ignorant it looks. Stop getting carried away with all this bullshit finger pointing and name calling.

    IT'S A GAME FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

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    Theodrek [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 21:49:41

    Guys, Nichodemus got what he deserved no matter how you look at it. Let it drop, and move onto the next log =)

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    Talan [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 21:41:49

    Wow, Good one Delgaur.

    After looking at Nichodemus pull the same shit, backstabbing a member of his party, I'm glad Karios did this to him. He deserved it.

    Scummy fuck.

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    Fofester [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 21:37:43

    Christ people, this is a game. Lighten up.

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    Karios [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 20:24:20

    Almost forgot, ya I'm so upset that you, Orlandu the great, Ubernewbie managed to get a 6 year member and 3 time GM released from Durmanhoth due to inactivity. Along with Canton, Konthor, Groggis and some other players that have been in the guild since you were in 1st grade learning your ABC's. Haha.

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    Karios [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 20:21:33

    Oh my mistake, I guess all these years i've misinterpreted the meaning of the word. Nagash Orlandu with MELS and Hans vs Karios... hmm sounds like an attempted gangbang to me. Btw, are you in High School yet?

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    Orlandu [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 20:19:35

    I didn't say it never happened, I said it wasn't a gangbang.

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    Karios [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 20:15:10

    Oh so now that feeble attempt on my life never happened Orlandu? Christ, youre even more dillusoinal than I thought. Well, for anyone interested, mudmail me and i'll mudmail you the log. I'd love to post it here but it's not a 'plain' or ANSI file. Carry on.

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    Ketan [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 20:10:46

    Was that supposed to be some kind of joke about me spending too much time here, Bakal? You play as often/more often than I do these days anyway. Sorry, man, but when you've got a pair of losers spending their lives on a game, you can't be like 'Yeah, well you found it first, so that makes you so much more of a loser!' And for the record, I just don't care what you have to say because it's never anything but bitter negative stuff. Just say anything that isn't meant to insult someone, just once, and I'll start listening again.

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    Barberi [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 19:44:47

    Many of you may not know me nor even care what I have to say. If that is so then please disregard this post altogether and skip to the next one for I do not want these words to fall upon a unhearing ear.

    Sometimes I wonder if these pages are full of 'in character' rage or
    if this rage is from the typist.

    Please, let us remember that this is a game. Not only is it a game that all of us enjoy but a game that we have grown to love. We play this game! Out of 6 billion people on this beautiful planet earth, we are the few that have decided to come together in this particular media. If we got together in RL would we be friends? Or would we squable much like we do here on these pages? Do not think that I am saying I am above you all, cause I know that I am the least of these that gather here. I would just like to see everyone give respect to their fellow gamers even if your character is evil that does not mean that you cannot respect others in RL. This page, this steps into RL and is full of RL rage. Don't let T2T affect you like this. Let it be fun and help others to have fun as well.

    Remember, Roleplaying not Player roling. Don't let your character control you! Taken from the Two Towers MUD HomePage'The Two Towers - a free Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game set within Tolkien's world. Here, you will battle fierce enemies, go on dangerous quests, and make friends and meet new people.' <--- This says nothing about anger or rage.

    As I was reading these posts I was thinking of all kinds of things to post. However, I shall withhold from posting most of them and let these words be my 'two gold pieces.'

    Barberi the Dwarf

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    Etrius [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 19:27:13

    'He's just some newb that's been around forever.' - Bakal

    A newbie that has been around forever?

    Yeah, that makes sense.

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    Brahm [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 19:14:07

    I remember back when Nichodemus was just that newbie claiming to have a hundred some kills with like '(135)' in his legend, adding like 3 a day. And now he might be big man DH, talking shit on the logpage all of a sudden. ;)

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    Bakal [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 18:44:24

    Still feel bad for poor poor Nicho?

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    Sime [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 17:48:45

    Nice one Delgaur :)

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    Kairn [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 17:23:05

    http://logs.dyndns.dk/viewer.php/591

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    Tarith [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 16:49:35

    watch out for those lock ups Nicho! lol

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    Lathen [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 16:28:41

    hrm, half of half of half, that's like, 1/8 or something right karios :P

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    Delgaur [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 16:08:00

    oh, and this will make you all chuckle.
    Talk about a hipocrit.
    Nichodemus hunt FOR Ruiniel. Haveing Rui think he is a friend :p

    http://logs.dyndns.dk/viewer.php/178

    Nichodemus effectivly does exactly the same to Ruiniel.

    and then!

    Suddenly, Nichodemus stabs Ruiniel from behind!

    And here you are, bitching out SoU for it :)

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    Bakal [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 16:01:39

    Watch out Delgaur! That lvl 16 or something Nichodemus will rock your world if you don't watch out.

    Yeah, and to Ketan. Sorry if I haven't spent half my life here on this mud like you have. I guess my opinion just doesn't matter to anyone, especially the people that respond to my comments. They don't care what I say. =(

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    Delgaur [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 15:59:22

    yeah, thats right, im a guild rat :p good one :)

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    Nichodemus [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 15:30:31

    I've killed a lot of people, Delgaur, just so you know. Maybe even you one day, if you'd get out of that stupid guild and walk around somtimes.

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    Delgaur [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 14:09:06

    SoU are all about lies and distrust, right? im heck...orc killed orcs....Evil is evil becuase they kill just about anything, within reason......Treacary(sp) and betrayal is the name of there game, right? i say good job!
    You might be freinds OOC, but IC, surly thats impossible since you left/removed from there ranks.
    The word 'outcast' springs to mind...

    Oh, and sice when could you no longer bash that door? :)
    shows how active i am huh :0

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    Light [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 13:46:31

    Nevermind your reasons, abusing one's trust is lame. VERY lame. If you want to kill one person do everything but don't lie him.
    Dishonour.

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    Delgaur [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 12:18:40

    He killed somone not on the hit list.....Nich killed somone? heheh...right. ok :p

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    Kujo [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 11:27:35

    Orlandu, why would you talk shit about Karios for? It's not like you're better then him or anything.

    600 comments, yeah!

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    Rougan [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 10:11:37

    Ah, just as a footnote, I believe even evil guilds should not have been so, but that was what I am told.

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    Rougan [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 10:10:12

    As if it were not the evil guilds who defended that they are so evil that they could carry out every lie, deceit and and dishonour because thematically they are defined so. What is all the whining about then?

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    Paraiko [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 09:19:28

    Nichodemus was borrowing eq and hanging around the FRA GH while he was an SoU applicant, before they became DH, so it's hardly a coincidence that he leaves the guild right after he was finished levelling and immediately applies to DH.

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    Ketan [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 08:35:26

    I make you want to laugh your ass right out of your seat, Karios? My opinion is that funny to you? And for the record, Sime, my feelings on the issue have nothing to do with Daen Hecil. Nichodemus isn't a member, nor do I even know him that well. I just think it was an underhanded kill. *shrug*

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    Azbakhar [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 08:14:41

    Who cares about durms, they are dead.

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    Orlandu [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 08:12:38

    And we didn't try to gangbang you Karios, so go whine to someone who cares.

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    Orlandu [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 08:11:05

    I meant of course by the rejects, Rome and Karios, which is why Karios had to go and show how immature he is. Still mad I got you kicked out of Durms?

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    Sime [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 08:09:14

    How many times hasent Gothwin been GM, she might have been off the throne a few times, but i doubt it had anything else to do with then boredom or RL stuff. She has been around for a long time and i have always respected her. only people complaining here seems to be the people from DH, and might that be cause he might have alot of friends there. Im sure i would if all i cared about on the mud was pking.

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    Sime [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 08:04:27

    Date: 24. Feb, 2003, 3:26:58 By: Orlandu
    I like how SoU is starting to be a guild of other guilds rejects

    Orlandu have you legended Nichodemus yet?, you might want to as he seems to work on becoming a DH member now, and what was that about SoU being a guild of rejects?
    Nich has been a sou for 2 years at least if im not wrong

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    Karios [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 07:56:07

    I told myself I wouldnt respond with another post here because of how pathetic some of you are acting, but I cant resist. The bottom line is, Nichodemus betrayed the guild. So he in turn, was betrayed. I honestly dont see the gray areay inbetween, and frankly find it hilarious that some of you are failing to make the connection. The fact that some of you actually feel sympathetic toward's Nichodemus' cause because of the 'way' he was killed makes me want to laugh my ass right out of my seat. And secondly, those of you that are making uneducated prejudgements are even more pathetic. YOU DONT KNOW HALF OF HALF OF HALF OF THE STORY, therefor you are not entitled to open your mouths and bellow out the nonsense that is flooding this board.

    Oh and Orlandu - AKA, Oldest newbiebitch in Arda. Are you just mad because you failed a fucking retarded gangbang on me with MELS and two warlords? You pathetic little boy. Youre pathetic IRL and youre pathetic on the Mud. Youre pathetic.

    That's all. :)

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    Gothwin [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 07:08:05

    I gave the nod to have Nichodemus killed, the means and method of it was up to the person fulfilling the hit. Do I disagree with how the kill was executed in the end? No. It was a cold-blooded kill, and it perfectly fits the mood Nichodemus put me in.

    I am sorry if it does not meet your stamp of approval, but I really don't care at this point, as long as the life he owed us was taken. It was a bloody execution for crying out loud.

    What's fucking pathetic is to bite the hand off that fed you until you were fully grown, and then still expect to be treated like a man. But I am glad Nichodemus has made himself new friends that are ready to back him up. Maybe you guys will have more luck with him.

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    Azbakhar [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 06:56:41

    I say good job. Well done. Good way to make him die. Evil, like the SoU are. Malicious.

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    Dwain [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 06:28:04

    You smell like tinkle Gothwin!

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    Crion [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 05:58:53

    3 Deaths in one day would probably make me suicide:p

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    Jaren [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 05:25:22

    That was low, sneaky, dishonorable, underhanded and just plain mean, stop copying my style, damn it. Why don't you just pick a bunch of them off for it, not like killing SoU is much of a challenge :P

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    Nichodemus [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 05:19:29

    *rotfl* 'Will wonders never cease...'

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    Ketan [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 05:16:48

    Damn it, Bakal, stop pretending like people care what you have to say anymore. 'Oh shit! Bakal is speaking negatively about someone?! Will wonders never cease...'

    And for the record, SoU's business is SoU's business...but I still think locking someone up like that is fucking pathetic. It makes me feel a lot of sympathy for whoever it happens to, and it makes me want to hurt whoever does it. But that's just me.

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    Kilth [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 05:14:38

    Did anyone like my char pic or what!??

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    Ultilh [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 05:14:03

    I don't care if it was Streak or Tuareg who were in Nichodemus' place, the way they killed him was just wrong.

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    Nichodemus [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 05:07:41

    Hey, Paraiko, if I've ever lied to you, then you were dreaming. Fuck you and yours for judging me for fabricated bullshit.

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    Nichodemus [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 05:06:48

    All hail the elitist, Bakal, who, I forgot, is the best player ever. And so far above me I can't even fathom the distance. Wait, Bakal, I thought you said -today- was opposite day... oh, well, go back to fourth grade and I'll go back to not pretending you're good.

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    Paraiko [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 05:05:42

    Gothwin made a post on the guild board putting him on the hit list, but that's the limit of her involvement. Regardless, Nichodemus abused our trust on so many different occasions, by lying, stealing and killing unprovoked, I find this manner of death to be poetic irony.

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    Kujo [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 04:58:07

    i agree

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    Bakal [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 04:51:20

    What the fuck do you people care about Nichodemus? He's just some newb that's been around forever. Fuck him. I think what SoU did was completely reasonable. How about we mind our own business and let SoU deal with SoU?

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    Kilth [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 04:29:25

    Anyone like my char pic?

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    Theodrek [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 04:16:21

    them = him.

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    Theodrek [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 04:15:59

    Maybe Gothwin gave the okay to kill them - Karios just decided that was the best way. But, people - it's not good to speculate. Let her say what happened. :P And if she doesn't, then maybe she doesn't think it's any of your buisness?

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    Orlandu [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 03:26:58

    I like how SoU is starting to be a guild of other guilds rejects

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    Nildnab [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 03:20:46

    Someone had to give the 'Ok'

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    Fimbu [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 03:08:05

    I agree with Talan and Ultilh. If Nichodemus pissed you off, kill him. But don't abuse his friendship with you. It is bullshit to say that this was only fair and right. I think someone leaving your guild shouldn't make you feel as 'betrayed' as someone abusing your trust and killing you. What an incredibly low thing to do, Karios, Gothwin, Athin, and whoever else was responsible. Gothwin is part of this, Karios, as Paraiko has said, 'Guild policy is that you never kill someone with getting permission from Gothwin', so unless she gave you the nod to fuck over Nicho, You'd better watch out when partying with a guildmate!

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    Nichodemus [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 02:57:54

    Hey, I have an idea...it's called... don't worry about it, and go back to your cowardice.

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    Paraiko [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 02:53:17

    Oh, quit being so fucking melodramatic. You pissed off an entire guild, so they killed you.

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    Nichodemus [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 02:43:46

    The drums cadence on, marching forward now, as I ought:
    I slip behind, walking darkly, to them malice I bade.
    They give their blood to the ground like an abused harlot -
    This masque of vengeance leads my death parade.

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    Ultilh [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 02:40:02

    Hey, fine. You want to kill him when he left? Go ahead, nobody is saying don't. But leading him into a trap and locking him up is just low. Whether any of you like it or not, Gothwin is responsible for the attack because she is the guildmistress of the SoU. Even if she did not order it, she still is responsible. In my past I knew the SoU to place contracts on those who leave or hitlist them, but never to lead them into a trap. *shrug*

    All I'm saying in this post is that if you hunted him and killed him, then it would be fine.

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    Paraiko [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 02:30:24

    Guild policy is that you never kill someone with getting permission from Gothwin, or at the least another member of the guild leadership. Nichodemus killed many people without permission. He also stole equipment to give to RL friends, and when he left the guild he took equipment with him. I defended him over and over again to Gothwin, and in his last offense, locking up an Amruin and demanding he give him his equipment, and then having him killed when he was refused, I even deflected a unilateral dismissal by requesting a DH vote. In the end, though, he left and made me look like a naive idiot. We've kicked out numerous members for a LOT less, but I fought to keep him around because of his history with the guild, and Gothwin had a lot more patience with him than others would. Hopefully the matter will end with his death, but I doubt it.

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    Karios [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 02:28:00

    What dont you people get? I locked him up, I killed him, I'm the asshole. Why are you pointing figers at Gothwin?

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    Manner [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 02:27:40

    'I'm sure he understands and respects that, being as though he is more often than not, an rational individual of sound mind.'
    i have no idea what that means...

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    Nildnab [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 02:25:45

    I wonder just who amitted Gothwin... *erms

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    Tarith [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 02:25:15

    NIcho: You call it boredom, I call it life.
    Umm, Nicho, i call it a game...lighten up, move on.

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    Manner [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 02:25:06

    oh i am sorry, I havent realised what truely happened here until Talan pointed it out. Nichodemus was actually being partied with one of the SoU members and then was led into a locked room... Well gothwin, when I was around, we always made out enemies realise that they are on the hitlist... here you had one of your members lead nichodemus into a lockable room and kill him, how does that represent our 'normal' policies.

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    Karios [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 02:22:45

    'Tis true, it's unfortunate that things had to have turned out this way, but the method of death corresponds to the method in which Nichodemus acted towards the Sons of Ulfang. He turned his back on someone who enacted whole-heartedly, breaking tradition and bending rules (Gothwin) to re-admit Nichodemus. For those who are familiar with SoU's policy, the readmittance of previous members just isnt allowed. But obviously in some cases, exceptions are made. Despite these facts, Nichodemus, without word or reason, in essence shoved Gothwin's generosity back in her face, as well as disrespecting his other guildmembers. SoU felt betrayed and insulted. So in turn, it was only proper that Nichodemus felt the same emotions. It's unfortunate that I had to be the one to carry out these actions, as this was not my style, and I have known Nicho for quite some time. But it was something that had to be done in order to re-establish an impartial relationship. In other words, death simply was not enough.

    For those of you taking this out or frowning upon Gothwin for this action, dont. I was the one who commited the act. The score between SoU and Nichodemus is now even. If retaliation or anything remotely negative comes out of Nichodemus towards our halls, there will be consequences and I'm sure he understands and respects that, being as though he is more often than not, an rational individual of sound mind.

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    Nichodemus [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 02:22:22

    I didn't kill him.

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    Theodrek [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 02:20:21

    'Honor at its best'

    Says Nichodemus, who recently locked up and killed one of our newbies in Edoras with Jonny. In that same exact room, too!

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    Talan [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 01:54:59

    Oh yeah, and if you're going to kill someone, never lead them to a fucking locked room in your party and attack them. Thats low quality. If they are your true enemy, they'd never party with you anyway. In other words, the only people you can kill this way are the people who's trust you abuse to kill them, and thats not cool.

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    Talan [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 01:52:28

    The only reason i see for killing him would be that every SoU who has left has been killed. Otherwise, this is hypocritical bullshit, and nichodemus has a legitimate gripe.

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    Zoso [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 01:36:43

    I like cookies, leave them out of this.

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    Jaier [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 01:18:28

    Damn you are hot Goth. ;p

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    Nichodemus [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 01:17:11

    The difference is, I'm free now. You call it boredom, I call it life. Tough break. Don't worry...you took my life once. Better start baking cookies.

    'Death swirls around you, endless and screaming,
    From which the voices shout their loud debate;
    And here their master stands, black blade gleaming,
    Pouring darkness onto you, resolute with hate.
    Mist his breath and shadow his soul, comes now he swift;
    Loathing and with blackened intent falls his blade.
    Mind saturated with insidious dreams, death his gift;
    Ill-fate and misfortune is what, to most, he hath bade.
    For nearer grows the hour and shorter your breath
    When cometh the Shadow, find comfort in death.'

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    Holic [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 01:12:56

    Tell the truth, you killed him because he is a baptist. What fuckery we live in these days.

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    Trempk [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 01:07:28

    Never trust an SoU, and usually, an not ex-SoU either.

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    Gothwin [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 01:05:14

    *sigh* Bless you Nichodemus for bringing this here, but since you don't want it any other way...fine.

    It seems that the countless times we sat you down and explained things to you just weren't enough to get through to you. You die in RP, you get reimbursed, end of the matter. You get killed in Mordor, you were avenged, end of the matter. You pk without asking and therefore blatantly breaking our laws, you cross the line. You act like an ass, bring shame to our name by threatening people like an idiot, demanding eq that isn't yours to demand, and instigate their death. Why? Because you are bored. You just don't know when to stop and keep asking for more and more.

    You refuse to listen, you refuse to accept what is given to you, and have been acting apart from the guild every since you were admitted. Is that the same Nichodemus that grew up in the SoU? Not at all. I trusted you to do what's best for the guild, yet you repeatedly broke that trust with your arrogance and your 'I deserve more' attitude.

    Bottom line is, you had a chance to part with the guild on peaceful terms, and show us the same courtesy we have shown you by at least explaining your own reasons, but instead you turned your back on your guild without a word, left with the guilds eq on you and your stone off, and slapped every single member that cared and put in effort in for you in the face. You think you're so damn special? I don't think so, and considering that not a single member stood up to defend you when the word came you were to be executed speaks volumes to me.

    I can excuse every single person who commented here due to their ignorance of our laws, but you (and Manner) should know that in our eyes, and in the eye of the very cause we stand and fight for, such failure and betrayal is not acceptable, and there is only one way to deal with blood-sucking leeches like that. You were owned by the guild when you entered our halls. We took back what belonged to us, your life as a Son of Ulfang. If that makes me a bitch, so be it.

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    Nildnab [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 00:06:36

    I belive I had mud *beep with gothwin...
    *looks for his log.

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    Limdul [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 00:03:51

    you mean the kill where azbakhar hunted (basically killed himself)? :P

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    Nichodemus [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 00:03:31

    So cry about it. Yours on me were unprovoked. BkD got pissed when I killed Xena. Before she was a BkD. *tear*

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    Azbakhar [legacy]
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    24 February 2003 00:02:20

    It was an unprovoked attack.

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    Nildnab [legacy]
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    23 February 2003 23:59:28

    I know what happened.. you told me in the short verison!

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    Nichodemus [legacy]
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    23 February 2003 23:57:48

    I'll tell you what happened. Back a month ago, I was killed by BkD in RP - they followed me north at Balforth. While I was reimbursed for my death, I still was pretty pissed off. 'No, Nich, you can't have revenge.' Alright. Fine. Whatever. Then they gangbang me in Mordor. I had a sword and a pack. That was pretty hot - 5vs1. So two of them died. I was still pissed. 'No, Nich, you can't have revenge.' Yeh, whatever. So then they decide that they're going to try and gangbang me twice more. Yeah, right. That didn't work. So I killed Azbakhar. Almost got thrown out of SoU. Then Azbakhar demanded 20k from me, and I told him to fuck off. And THEN he cried to Gothwin about it. So she gave it to him! Then they told me, 'Nich, you can't pk anyone anymore, blahblah'. Ok. Cowardice much? Can't even defend your members? Pretty cool. Especially after being in SoU for years. Yeah. I felt appreciated. So I left. Why? Because first they ignore my requests to avenge me, they ignore me, then they try to put a lid on me? Yeah, that's going to happen. So I left. That's the story.

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    Ultilh [legacy]
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    23 February 2003 23:41:02

    Well maybe our beloved REALLY hot girl Gothwin would tell us what happened...

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    Fimbu [legacy]
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    23 February 2003 23:40:44

    Obviously not something enough to make him think they were enemies. He was helping Gothwin and Adunazon and I look for people in Mordor earlier today.

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    Azbakhar [legacy]
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    23 February 2003 23:38:41

    You don't even know what happened for him to get removed.

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    Fimbu [legacy]
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    23 February 2003 23:34:44

    What a fucking lame thing to do. I wouldn't expect that from Gothwin. Bummer, Nicho. What assholes.

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    Manner [legacy]
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    23 February 2003 23:26:45

    What the fuck was that about? You guys seriously need to reconsider what happened here. Nichodemus has been a member forever, thats not a way to repay all his services *boggle*

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    Numair [legacy]
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    23 February 2003 23:21:54

    That was fucking gay. Nicho is a stud.

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    Nildnab [legacy]
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    23 February 2003 23:18:15

    By looking at this.. that just wasnt right, for all I can remember, Adunazon and Nichodemus have been in sons forever, if I was a member still I would kill ya, take your head and rape your corpse.
    I'll be Surprised if more members dont decide to leave after viewing this crap.

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    Azbakhar [legacy]
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    23 February 2003 23:12:04

    Hahaha.