I wasn't going to post this, as it was an RP fight. I didn't lock Garius in the camp, he had taken the flag and killed the flag guard. He was locked in by his own doing by the patrolling guard. At the end I wait by his stuff so he come back and get it when he revives. The thanks I get for being a little civil is him waiting till I go idle, reporting in rp, then immediately logging off.
You know... Mordor is always an option. Stop by, have a talk. Enjoy life. No really.
*whees*
The DH RP is awesome, but when you kill Tenzek and auction his armour tagging it fresh, Caber will instantly go balistic and kill your NPC, then talk about going to war! :P This is what RP is about, you players are truly scared to lose your hard earned gold. Suck it up, if you are level 19, what else do you have to live for? You are at the top, there is nothing else for you, go try to RP for real. Or, go play some Airsoft.
Wow. That took all my patience to sit through. Saw nothing of interest. Oh by the way, the generally accepted rule of thumb of roleplay being about not killing people but still having player/player interaction in area/npc defense has been quite prompty tossed out by the implementation of the Daen Hecil. There are also no rules or governing laws in Arda about RP. DH have introduced a new element to roleplay. An element that is far more thematic in relation to Tolkien than anything I've seen in a long time. I don't neccessarily agree with it, but it's nice getting a sick feeling in my stomach when I go into Tenzek's camp knowing Caber might be running around with a quiver full of silver arrows. It's good to know I can go somewhere other than Mordor for a fright. If you don't like it, don't go. Or go prepared. Alternatively - whiners - type 'suicide'.
I think this should get an award for being the spammiest log for a while.
*wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss*
Long one wasn't it.
>Date: 18. Apr, 2003, 19:02:49 By: Trempk
>'I wasn't going to post this, as it was an RP fight'
>So why did you post it?
Because Garius reported and there were no good logs?
Oh, here's a definition of MP:
Asking your RL ainur friends to randomly nuke people when they try to kill you using fake reasons.
Where the hell do I live??:PPP
Blah, remove the lawsys and let's have fun RPing imo:)
Good one, Trempk!
'I wasn't going to post this, as it was an RP fight'
So why did you post it?
heh, isn't that kinda accusing him of being his brother? ;-)
there isnt an option for RP battle you fuckwit, and i didnt accuse you of being your brother, i said you're a known character sharer and i didnt know which one i was talking to
Aww shucksl, and here I was thinking Intulor got himself banned again. I guess it's ok for him to accuse me of being my brother!
Oh, and another thing about this log. It's posted under Player Kill. Just goes to show what DH's rp is really all about! Just another excuse for them to kill people. I think Holic said it best with his legend info: 'This is why I didn't RP with you people because I'd kill you.' Something like that eh?
...and with that, go fuck yourselves!
And even were one to disregard Tarn's comments now, I can't recall a time when Gnork wasn't widely held to be an ignorant, pompous VC lapdog.
The 'Mordor is Mordor' argument is pretty pitiful and self-serving, people. Why, because you're afraid of some fines? If you truly consider yourself a roleplayer you'd be just as willing to turn the tables (or not do so, depending on your personal RP) on an attacker and strike him down (or not) outside of Mordor as you would on the inside.
Hahahaha
Is it only me who sensed the sarcasm in what Tarn last said?
Ok... I just spent half an hour reading this thread, and I have only begun to realize how stupid some of our fellow mudders are. I'm not going to mention names...
As for DH. Good job. Keep up the good work, and if you catch me in your camp killing Tenzek, you have my full permission to slaughter me mercilessly.
As for Garius, He died. Whoop. I don't agree with the fact that he reported, but I'm not going to jump up to defend, nor insult him.
As for the rest of you.... Read your comments before you post them. Think them through. Many of you are making complete fools out of yourselves.
~~~~The Fallen One~~~~
heh. bakal's got spunk.
pickle.
boffo, do us all favor and stop spamming mortal council, they have better things to do than deal with a new idea from you every other day
The problem with a comments section this long, and so full of spam -is that if you actually had anything meaningful to say, it would be obscured by all the bullshit.
Anyways... whenever I happen to wander by Tenzek's camp, I ALWAYS bump into someone from DH. I KNOW that if I don't watch my Ps and Qs that they will try to kill me. Consequently, I just leave. Oddly enough, I've never been killed there. Whee.
gnork swallows :P
100!
Actually my rp is now to hibernate for 90 days and then log on twice and then, yeah I think thats it.
*spanks draugluin all the way to mordor*
*whees again*
Reading through this whole string of comments, I'm seeing 'oh you suck' 'oh you klilled in RP'
Oh, god, my dog just threw up.
Anyway. 'Oh, you killed in RP' 'Oh, you cheated' 'Oh, you were MPing' and every so often I'll just see a '*Whee!*' from Barren. It makes me giggle :)
Ok.... for those it concerns, no more MP hints or info in this thread. No, no one was blocked or anything. Just don't do it no matter how tempting please :-).
Sorry.
Bah, we weren't whining, just explaining and defending ourselves.
hahahaaha swish
oh, but I don't pay attention to tarn's comments anymore.
Tarn comments a lot
Heh, thats funny a funny comment Skyman when i come to think about it. Why do we need new logs? Cant we just continue the flaming in one thread?
we need new logs
Wauw, was that just a general whine from the PoL? :)
And, yes, this coming from the person who can't huntbreak to save his life (proven on many an occasion)
Yeah. After 1996 they made it so even stupidasses could level up, and they made it so stupidasses couldn't get killed. A lot of people don't have much to fear on T2T. =P
Good stuff Jaren. Wish this was 1996 so I could actually be afraid of you guys.
Bakal, let's get this straight...You're right about one thing, your opinion doesn't mean shit... but not because you're from Solon, but because you're a moron who doesn't even deserve to stand in Caber's shadow, nevermind call him a clown. I don't even think I'll respond to Jerf :P
--J
ok Caber i dont think i need to go indepth with anything. Mordor is mordor....seems to sum it up pretty well. But Bakal makes a great point in his comment.
I see a lot of this.
Someone dies, so clearly that means 8 others cheated. How? Well, in a super-secret way that no one could ever prove no matter what, short of getting the FBI involved or some sort of a truth-serum.
However, when your target dies (of course) you neeeeeeeeeever cheated.
Funny how that works.
Caber's a clown. My points made. Wow, I'm a good debator.
Yeah, in response to Gothwin, and as Rhoads was saying...at least one DH has died in our camp while defending it. Intulor died there, and though he was initially rather annoyed, he got over it. And we didn't go declaring any guild wars over it or anything.
And Jerf, let me get this straight. You're trying to refute my argument about Mordor, which was several sentences long and made a couple of points, by saying 'Mordor is mordor.' Wow, man. Good point! You're quite the persuasive debator.
*whees again*
I think all arda should just be lawless except for lowbies, and that's it. If you attack someone, you should mean to kill him, wheither there is an area to protect or not. I mean, if an orc was to meet an elf somewhere in the wilderness they wouldn't drink a cup of tea together, would they? I think it's lame for this guy to have reported and even if he had been hunted outside the camp.
samelike, when this DH guy was killed by a bang during a rp-fight, there are no reasons to whine, imo, when you engage a fight you should be ready to the worst and when it happens to take it with pride and prepare a vengeance.
I don't remember if you were at that battle yourself or not, Direkein. But I remember that no one hunted. Taidhbhse had the MELS, we focused on him because of that fact. Amruin made the decision on who we all were going to focus on, not BKD. And from my understanding, no one but the BKD even knew he had claimed the C. It was his fault he died cause he didn't leave the room in time, being in combat with 13 people is dangerous, he should have known. It was only by chance that the guy with the contract was the one who got the deathblow.
Well shit, now that I have to time to respond to something it just seams pointless. I guess me being from Solon means my opinion doesn't matter because god for bid some of us have cheated. Intulor just owns me. He can go on slandering me with all his characters because he's just that good.
Oh the good ole lawless lands. Join in merriment and praise!
Direkein, I'm disgusted with that one. I was the VC in that kill, and I was simply told we were there to defend edoras. I've started asking what the intention is nowadays, before I didn't even think it was necessary. I _NEVER_ go into an rp fight with the intention to kill, just defend and repel. Or attack and scatter.
The one exception is mordor, if I get attacked there as part of rp and I see that it can be turned around to my victory, I will do so and kill if it comes to that, as it is also the other way around in there.
And a comment directed at Caber who said something about Vc and defending loth. As I said, we defend and repel, but even if we wanted to drive off and kill people who attacked the place we care about, it's not possible for us. We're a guild largely consisting of rangers and our theme is practically a ranger's guild even if it's not that simple nowadays. So, we don't have access to hunt. But still, our goal is not to kill, it's to save lives.
At any rate, these comments drive too deeply into the philosophical. The fact of the matter is, Garius acted foolishly, he died. For reporting, we'll kill the fucker again. We'll hunt people in Tenzeks camp as we have always stated we would, and we won't bandage. So if you want to try your luck, fine. Take the risk becuase you know you can handle yourself. If you are incapable of handling difficult situations, then don't come to kill our brethren, cause we'll fucking kill you.
In response to Gothwin's question, Tenzek's is a dangerous place. If we trapped someone in, and died in the ensuing RP battle. . .thats the way it goes. We wouldn't seek retribution for that death. DH members have died in RP battles. We don't report, cry, or come after you because of it.
In response to Tarn's comments about carrying a contract during these RP battles...just ask BkD. One of my members was killed in Edoras when he was involved in an RP battle with Amruin and VC. A party of BkD and one VC came in and hunted and killed him. They just 'happened' to be carrying his contract. So before bitching us out for a behavior that we haven't performed yet, be careful at who you point the finger at first, eh? Pretty easy for the VC in the RP battle to keep tabs on a persons health, and then call in the pk party, no?
*whees*
Kabuto, what did/didn't I say now?
I know how they reacted Gothwin!
Erm, they do Gazza? Or is it just you who has a problem with it? But as you quite well pointed out, such things don't come without risks to both sides. Personally I don't care what people say, and I am quite sure Direkein doesn't either. We try to spice things up, and of course there will always be some measure of bitching, but in the case of Mordor, I have found numerous people who have actually come to appretiate the efforts as enhancing to their experience. I am pretty sure eventually people will see what the DH are doing as being quite similar, and those that don't...need to grow some balls.
I am curious to hear though how DH would act if one of them were to be killed within their own camp. I mean, if you RP to kill, you can't really blaim others if you die yourself doing it.
If you have a problem with DH killing you in there area, by all means, feel free to try and take some revenge.
Should some DH mention my guild's name in a totally unrelated log periodically? I mean, what's this obsession for?
Mordor is mordor. That is a shitty argument on DH's part. That is fine hunting and shit but i bet if someone hunts you and kills you and calls it RP they are on the guild board and posted to be killed twice because they hunted you and killed you.
Yeah I don't feel bad for someone who came here to kill my people, traps himself in, and then dies for it. We won't bandage invaders, we're not here to give out lollypops. If people can't handle being hunted in the area (what is it? 5 rooms big?!)then don't fucking come there to kill. Is this such a hard concept to grasp?
Instead of bitching at us, how about bitching at garius for being a complete idiot. Nice reporting job.
Were Caber's comment to have come from Lotraz, I might have gotten a little upset, but since it came from Caber, it was just funny!
Oh hey Caber, it's a shame that Warrax doesn't play anymore, huh? I mean, he's a great pker but he's so much more useful when he can just ZChat the exact room and hp of your pk target to you instead! But I must admit, I myself have often used the 'You can't prove it so you can't say it' excuse.. just happens that the Powers don't need proof.
Why Gothwin and Arthlor where having fun with me in mordor just the other day! I wont say i'd complain cause i thought it was fun but still...
but all that said i'm not really affected by the lock/hunt thing, but garius is cool and comes from a time when people weren't doing this sort of stuff. so it is quite possible he didn't know the dangers.
But, Caber, people do have problems with SoU pkilling in Mordor. I mean, they don't even return eq. And Rims started a war with Udungul over their 'defense' of mordor (shortly after, the 'shadow alliance' kinda ceased to be so great). But the best we can do is sit here and feel good when people like Gothwin get killed in Mordor. There's some great irony right there.
woohoo im mudding~!
Ya this is lame....i just saw like 125 people on the who is on? thing at the website. Is that just people that were on before the crash or people that get to play and we dont?
I've just got up to one of Anatharn's comments and gasp, I agree with a point he made...I always find it very annoying and quite unrealistic when someone leaves a wizard's casting ont he 3rd round. It IS cowardly. RP'ers everywhere should at least have the courage to stand and take it like a man (like Andruil does). [There'll probably be some DH response like 'gazza your fucking stupid why should we stand in the room and wait for damage like that'. And to that I respond: adding a bit more 'realism' to the roleplay fight instead of using unrealistic yet unavoidable gameplay features such as 'leaving the room on the 3rd round so that you get 3 free rounds on your opponent and making them waste 9ep'. If you think about this before you respond, you will see my point.]
I don't see why killing RP is bad. If a town is under attack, the defenders arn't just gonna kick the bad guys and be like Ok, now that you are hurt leave our town peacefull and we'll go back to our peaceful way of living! Everyone happy!
yeah right..hunting? Yeah, its the freakin camp, your not gonna defend one point in your settlement and let the rest of it get destroyed. You hunt your enemies out.
Lets keep in mind there is a fuckin difference between RP battling and sparring with big words and calling it RP battle.
I also wanted to say your all idiots for answering comments like Anatharns'. Who the fuck cares what he says. We all know he's just saying these to get under your skin so just fuck it.
Heh.
Lame...I was gonna log on for ever and try to lvl :P
Bah guess i will sit here and do jack shit.
It surely is Tantor.
I think that if a guild is made, and it does its 'RP' then you should let the Ainur decide if they arnt making RP standards. The ainur must think that its ok, if not they would just say you guys's RP is a sad excuse to get free-kills. I mean I myself dont RP with them, because I dont like to be against the Daen Hecil, because i kill in edoras alot...but when i go after tenzek, i get the flag do a find on some of the DH that are on, call for back up, take out tenzek with help of backup and get the fuck out of there. If u dont want to die be safer before you enter The camp.
PS. The mud down for u guys also?
Aww, it has been way too much of this lately
I cannot connect either.
Hmm, is the mud down?
Go ahead Tarn, like any of us give a fuck what you do anyway :P
i thought your rp was to hibernate for 90 days, come back for a week or 2, then hibernate for 90 days again
*waits for innovators to start posting logs of people completing contracts by hunting in rp combat
lame hunting in rp combat
I mean, why don't I just hunt people in rp combat to complete contracts. Whats the difference between you hunting in rp combat to defend your 'city' when its my rp to be a contract killer and complete contracts and kill mad fools.
i thought about you when i was generalizing, crion, and just chose to ignore the fact that you live there heh. you're like, an outlier or something :P
Few. Few, crion :)
ask some non-illaterate...
haha, non-illaterate, knocked me off my chair.
Don't forget that Intulor was also taking a risk. You never know, maybe after Intulor attacked and hunted him, Garius could have called in 3 friends and Intulor might have died in two backstabs and a headbutt. So don't be so hard on them..
Personally I'm not for killing in role-play, but Garius was not trapped. There is a simple way to remove the patrolling guard that everyone who enters that camp (intended on harm) should know. Also Intulor, don't label my damn town, there _are_ people that don't cheat here you know! :)
Long line, Anatharn? Why don't you name them for us then?
lets bang anatharn ;p
oh for gods sake, why dont you look at your history of comments on all your chars and take note of all the times you've said something or another about homosexuals. there have been many people nuked from almost every guild, yet you choose to single us out. grow up, stop acting like you're a victim.
Why not? You're calling me a bigot either without even getting the idea of what I meant with the word 'queer' because your own fucking definition of the word is 'gay'. So why are YOU making up lies all the time, Intulor? And it's really a trange incident that this single DH/FRA member did not get nuked (if it's true) thinking of the long line of alts in your guild that were nuked for cheating already.
it's kinda news to me and everyone else that jaren got nuked, considering i was standing right beside him when he suicided, dumbass. why do you always feel you have to make up bullshit? you're nothing but a habitual liar
You think you know why I got nuked? Then why don't you share it with us!
The context that I used the word 'queer' in makes it rather obvious that it has the meaning 'strange' rather than 'gay', Intulor.. even if you only know the second meaning which doesn't surprise me at all. And yeah, I'll keep making comments now as long as you give me feed-back until I reached number 1 of the people with the most comments :P
If you don't get it, I won't help you... ask some non-illaterate person I guess if you know any.
You seemingly didn't get my first comment either. I was speaking in Caber's favor there who is your guildmate... was ... your guildmate. Forgot, you got nuked. Now I'm wondering why it doesn't surprise me.. ahhh, wait I know ;)
heh don't see why you're bitching at intulor for this, afterall garius locked himself up there
what the hell is it with you and your obsession with homosexuality? could you be anymore of a bigot?
What the hell is that supposed to mean? :P
'talking out of one's ass' ..I dunno where these pictures in your mind come from, Jaren. But I think you must really have a queer family and/or circle of friends.. or do you do that yourself?
You don't need to post these retracting statements Anatharn, everyone knows you were talking out of your ass anyway.
Okay, what I said about Caber probably wasn't true. I never saw him corpselooting or quitting on anyone, bor do I know any of his other chars, so I don't know if any of them got nuked either.
He should have known what he was getting into when he decided to attack tenzek, and to top it off he tries to fight it out - even when he sees that it's not going very well, instead of just leaving the camp.
Oh, the massive slaughter. Ick!
Well Sluggo, running between 3 npcs everytime I entered dosen't seem like beeing 'smart' to me, just beeing a wuss, but them again that is just me :P
i had this nice responce for you anatharn, full of insults, as well as explanations that would make you look like an idiot, but then i reminded myself that you're not worth it
No, Caber.. you really are a cheater.. and you have been nuked countless times on other chars.
Yes, Anatharn, but you really are those things...and you're just making stuff up about me. And you know it. Wait, wait, there's all the cheating that I do that I've never been nuked for, but that must be because it's a huge conspiracy, right? Anyway, I was just thinking: Why is it that you guys don't whine and cry when SoU attacks people in Mordor in defense of their place? I mean, aren't they just trying to get free kills? If we are, then they are too, right? But no, nobody gives a damn. Maybe it's because you can't report in Mordor anyway, so you just give up all hope and don't cry about it. I don't know, but it seems to me that some people are just bitter. *shrug*
It especially hurts you when you're a quitter/corpselooter yourself and additionally have cheating abilities, Caber.
Hey Anatharn, coming from a known quitter/corpselooter, being called a coward really hurts. :(
In my opinion, Jerf, VC _should_ hunt you through Lothlorien for killing their elf scouts. It's what we call 'actually taking RP seriously.' There are a _ton_ of people who come to Tenzek's camp and manage to kill him and get out. Oh, of course nobody has any problems with it then, but suddenly when someone comes in unprepared and is trapped (by himself, for fuck's sake), then it's all horrible and just a free kill. Hey Bakal, you know when you can start talking? When you start RPing. At all. And Jerf, what is it that you defend? What's that? Nothing? Gotcha. We make out intentions clear, the rest is up to you.
First you leave the room to dodge Garius second casting attempt, then you hunt him to make sure that HE won't be able to leave the room without having you follow him emediatelly and then you don't bandage him, but put him out of his misery when he falls to the ground. And I'm pretty sure that you only offered to save his stuff for him because it was all crap. Had you seen the globe or something in his corpse, I'm 100% sure that you'd have greedily looted it.
I can only advice everyone who's forced by DH to play their dirty and coward form of 'RP' with them, to report it afterwards.
right jerf, you fall into the solon twit category too. no, i never intended to bandage, nor did i act like i intended to bandage him. my point was to get him to stop attacking my brother dunlendings. you see 'k garius' being typed about 20 times in 3 seconds after he went back into tenzeks room? that's rp you cunt, because i was trying to make sure that he hit me instead of tenzek. dont even pretend like you know a damn thing about DH. and if bakal and his brother don't play each other's chars, why were they once nuked for it?
You 'had' to hunt me because you couldnt outsmart me :P
All Garius had to do to leave was go south, attack the guard, go ne and sw real quick, then he could leave... :P
Hunting sucks either way. I hated having todo it one time, really weak imho :P
I agree with Konj. Don't kill in the damn camp if you don't want to be killed, it's pretty simple really.
Do you think Garius didn't know the risk of entering the camp? I bet he knew about DH hunting in it. Besides, why didn't he fade or something? It's his own damn fault.
Intulor that is bullshit Bakal and his brother have two different chars and they dont play on each others and dont even pretend like you know they do. And the fact that you killed him isnt rp you know you were gonna kill him so dont act like you didnt know what was going on and you werent thinking to bandage him fast enough. YOu dont see VC hunting me through Loth because i kill elven scouts in there. *shrug* i know it is how DH so call 'RP' but we all know you had no intent of bandaging him or letting him leave.
bakal, nice of you to jump on the 'dh never rp's' bandwagon. unfortunately, you're just another solon twit, and that means your opinion matters to no one but your solon ass pals and tuareg the tagalong. hell, i dont even know who im talking to, you and your brother can't seem to stay off of each other's chars. which one of you is playing now?
Actually he could have left had he used his brains instead of letting himself be killed like the sheeps KoDA uses to play.
Are you kidding me with this supposed rp bullshit? Ooh yeah, let's just call it rp but really it's a free kill! We're inovators!
He was locked in your camp. He couldn't leave. So you just shrug and hunt him till he dies. Good stuff! UBER!
wasn't really thinking of whether my kill/take all toggle was on or off at the time :P
*laughs at what Lotraz just wrote*
Indeed ;) But still. I think you should bandaged him?
You shouldn't have finished him off... Tenzek would've gotten the kill.
i hunted because he did not leave earlier. had he just went south before i had attacked him, i would have waited with him until the patrolling guard left and escorted him out.
Hmm. nice rp. but since You are defending Tenzek and the city, My opinion is that hunt should not be considered... IMHO that is..