I'm not sure why Duncan didn't proudly display this log already, to show off his great skills.. Maybe I should post the twenty-somthing attempted kills that Duncan and Skyman made previous to this.
We'll just close it, not move it.
Whatever, someone move this to the forums, too many requests to close this, I am doing it.
Rhoads.
Ok ... you made me read all this sh********. I think Duncan already spoke about 'thematic' aliances and things. ARE YOU FREAKS OR WHAT ?
One damn pkill and everyone starts flaming people who which guild is in. Know what. Lame Beater and lame Beyaz. Lemme tell you something. DH and Beornings and BKD and Glorglas and whoever guild you decide to put into it is what it is because of its members. And each and every member is an unique person. He/she has his/her friends. I personally am ready to die for each and every friend of mine. And I don`t really care if he is VC/UDUNGUL/Durm/ or whatever guild you say. And Beyaz you are KoDA applicant (erm ... future dead meat). How about the thing that KoDA party with Julius ? Nobody made this big thread. Now all shut up. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS RP DICTATING GUILD LIFE! You can not judge for the whole guild by the things done by one person.
Now shut up. We all know Grimscar is an a**hole. Anyone to go on random pkill spree with Amearn can be considered so. At least I respect Amearn cause he has some reasons to do that. And you are just some ... (lemme not say it).
I would guess that Delgaur likes Skyman more than Daywalker.
and just how many people has skyman killed, trempk?
This thread needs closeing, or moving.
But while we are at it - why should DH and Beornings not team up on a common enemy? *shrugs*
Trempk, aybe you are right, skyman saved there lives, so in GVs eyes he needed to die, same goes for us, skyman died, we cant accept that.
Tell me beater , just how 'should' it be? huh?
All perfect and politicaly correct, DH should do this, Beorns should do that because thats how YOU think it should be?
There are alot of things about my own guild i dont like, a lot of things i dont like about the mud - but its there - and i accept and get along with it to the best of my abilty, think you can do a better job? start a guild and be a GM.
And to answer your question reeth, if i felt you were at risk and needed my help, then yes.
If you screamed at me for help, the same way duncan did, yes.
But i would not go out of my way to arrest him, no.
I have no need. and it benifits me 0.
Del.
I'm wondering why daywalker isnt allowed to pk with duncan, but skyman is..? Or am i missing something?
Sorry don`t have time to read all comments but too bad they did not double you.
I'm ending this discussion. If you want to say something to me, doesn't matter bad or no, speak on t2t. Flaming here won't help anything.
Not beyaz, i for a moment mixed up beyaz and beater's ratings.
'skyman shouldnt have ran of helping a guild which the beornings have been told to stay away from and even are to afraid to kill in their camp etc. if he helps people get out of trouble when they got themselves into it while trying to kill us he should face the consequenses. DH and beornings together in a pk party is NOT whats supposed to be.'
I'm LMAOing. I shouldn't have 'ran helping a a guild...' I'm helping DH?!? Where did you see that. I have my motives to kill Grimscar, Duncan helped me kill him. So actually he helped me.
'...a guild which the beornings have been told to stay away from and even are to afraid to kill in their camp etc...'
Do you believe your words? Were have been told to stay away? As far as I know we decided not to mess with DH because of their hunting in rp. Too afraid to kill in their camp? Am I afraid to kill there?
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I just can't stand the shit you're speaking here. Have I ever been scared? Do you know what fear means? HMPH.
Helping people escape death deserves death as much as trying to kill someone. So if grimscar deserved to die for killing skyman, then skyman deserved to die for saving duncan and his friend. Simple as that. duncan killed Alkath for giving grimscar a phial, and that wasnt even saving him really.
Skyman isn't fun when mad...I know...
Anyway, for everyone that think they can talk about RP in a serious way, I strongly recommend (like others), read LOTR, The Hobbit, Silmarillion, and other books from the world of arda...Before you do that, don't start to talk about something you don't know.
go ahead skyman get mad and do your worst with me. im sure someone cares. and i already told the admins they can ban for flaming or what ever.
The admins - > ban Beater and Bayaz for abusing me
You don't know me when I'm mad.
Wanna read my fist in your face or something? how fucked up are you? fine to help friends and shit but dont get mad if you die doing it.
I don't know why I am wasting time talking to newbies.
>Date: 23. Oct, 2003, 19:18:40 By: Beater
>skyman youre fucking messed up if you cant see that you did wrong
That's an abuse? Do you know how I treat abusers? Shut this abuse thing up. I did wrong...... in what?! Are you sick? Can't you read?
To Duncan: kazah li ti che rhoads e mnogo prosto parche. MNOGO typ. kazah ti misql nqkolko pyti:PP boy po nego
And to Grimscar: How to kill you? That's one of the few ways to kill you. Know why? Not because you're a uber player, but because you are a paranoic type of guy who always has an innroom, who set his huntbreak aliases and always moves around breaks. How do you expect us to kill you?
skyman youre fucking messed up if you cant see that you did wrong
I forgot to say about the 'poor old Grimscar'. Does any of you know him?! I'm not abusing him, I'm just saying the truth -> he's an asshole. His participating in the beggining of G-UNIT thing proves that. Am I wrong?
>Date: 23. Oct, 2003, 17:29:58 By: Beyaz
>Grim killed Skyman, the Beorning i think you refer to, because he >helped Duncan and Terem to escape a lockup...unless i am going mad.
>If he hadnt helped, he wouldnt have died....
I didn't die because I helped them, I died because I incidently moved 'north'. And he killed me because I was naked, totally smashed sindar wizard and because he saw a possibility to kill me, which he probably won't have again. I doubt he had any other reason except just bloodthurstiness.
>Date: 23. Oct, 2003, 17:43:48 By: Beyaz
>Explain DH's presence in the party then Sarys?>
>I fail to see the thematicity with that...its just a plain old get->together/killfest on poor old Grimscar :(
DH's presence? I see only one DH there, and that is Duncan. I've helped him numerous times and he has helped me more than numerous times. Ever heard of the word friendship?
And sarys said he don't justify the kill. I'm not glad Alkath died(altough he abused me or something on the earlier log comments), because he's a neighbor. But justify? Why does a DH(Duncan) need to
justify his kill on a moral? It will be completely unthematic for Duncan to justify his kill.
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A suggestion to all that think they're right -> Reread Silmarilion, The Hobbit and LOTR. Duncan has said that multiple times on this page. Reread them and then start arguing what's wrong or right. And who are you Beyaz???
The gg/bkd/beorn alliance we all know of, why the hell does the bkd party with the dh on a gangbang is what i can get even if you shared uniques.. it doesnt matter if you shared mothers. skyman shouldnt have ran of helping a guild which the beornings have been told to stay away from and even are to afraid to kill in their camp etc. if he helps people get out of trouble when they got themselves into it while trying to kill us he should face the consequenses. DH and beornings together in a pk party is NOT whats supposed to be.
Apparently you don't really get me, Beyaz.
But anyway, the Dwarves of Erebor helped the Dunlendings get rid of the leprechauns terrorising the hills of Dunland, hence this alliance.
Just wondering then what you wouldve done if id asked you to help me arrest duncan then heh. Maybe you would get a Loop error, and disconnect.
ok, so i am enter key happy :p
Well i think you should all ask the GMs of the relevant guilds, rather than speculating on the log site.
Sarys Explained the BKD/Beornigns/GG alliance. One, which i might add, has yet to loose any Guild war thye have thought Together.
DH - what alliance are you all reffering to exactly?
The one where Daywalker pked with Duncan? and was consequently told to stop. He continued, and was told to stop, or leave the guild. He Left.
Skyman? - We all have friends - imo unlocking a door for one who is getting PKed does not equate to an alliance.
Getting Pked for unlocking that door however, gives you a reason to Pkill that person back.
Looks to me like skyman Finaly did that. Make use of bodys willing.
There is no alliance Between DH and Beornings.
I would go out of my way to help a BKD.
I would probally die for one.
I would help a member of the VC if asked, the Amruin to.
I would only help a DH if it was convinent for me, and i have had good dealings with said member. Same as i Would a member of the new GV, or a member of the KoDA.
And im sure many Beornings would be the same.
Have a Nice Day.
Del.
The biggest guild in Arda, the real villain of all of then, the source of all evil is Ranhoth clearly. Surprises me how very few of you have noticed that.
Well I know BkD helped kill Grimscar because he killed one of their allies, what I don't get it is why shouldn't be Skyman's own fault for dying like that to then? I mean, not like Grimscar and Garik aimed for Skyman, he screwed himself over by involving himself into and the result was him dying and this bang, well, whatever, this game is all about intrigues it seems.
DH was present there because skyman and duncan are buddies and they don't care what each other's guild is as long as they can help each other pk. Cause thats the reason why both play the game. Imo, i dont think people like that should be allowed in guilds, it was established(or was supposed to be established) a long time ago that guilds sole purpose were supposed to be for RP enhancement. Therefore, people who care nothing for RP shouldn't be allowed into guilds. For example, I don't really see why the durms needed a theme change when all but a few of their members could have been in any other impartial guild that existed at the time and played the exact same way they did as a durmanhoth member. Then again, maybe this theme change has given those members a better role to play.
but you didnt explain DH's presence there....so it is still unthematic
'hi, i can die like a newb and then beg fimbu to ask his friends not to kill me anymore.'
True that. For the most part, your assessment is accurate. I would, however, have capitalized the F in Fimbu.
Back on topic... It's nifty to see the honor of Gondor being defended with such valiance. Perhaps day shall one day come again. It certainly won't be at Duncan's hand(even though Duncan is pretty cool).
I never said I was justifying this kill, I'm just helping poor Grymlar out of his confusion.
Explain DH's presence in the party then Sarys?
I fail to see the thematicity with that...its just a plain old get-together/killfest on poor old Grimscar :(
The Beorning-BKD (and Glorglas) alliance is an old one, based one the battle of five armies where these men (or this man, really), Dwarves and Elves fought side by side.
Still unthematic?
Call me confused!!! So who's side is beornings on then? I thought they where for themselves, and no one else, as where the dwarves of erebor, or does this make them allies? Just last week while raiding caras me and a few friends after we had droven of galadhrim where attacked out of no where by beornings, so beornings are allies with the elves of lothlorien, dwarves of erebor, AND dh?
P.S. Anyone wants help busting some KoDa, not that it would take much, let me know, was kindof put off that they ended up running all the way to caras to ruin our fun as well, this alliance thing is getting WAY out of theme and seems to be built from people afraid to be at war with who they should be???
Grymlar, Newbie at the Alliance game.
block me for flaming, whatever
what the hell are you talking about brahm? the beornings and the dh has done PK together before and its not very fucking thematic. and the dh are allies with the dungs so what the hell are you doing in a party with them? i know you split MELS this boot but ffs can you see what you are doing to RP when these 3 guilds are ganging morals together? and it looked pretty obvious that skyman was helping out on the PK where grimscar got him killed so the beornings shouldnt have gone after him in the first place.
Grim killed Skyman, the Beorning i think you refer to, because he helped Duncan and Terem to escape a lockup...unless i am going mad.
If he hadnt helped, he wouldnt have died....
From what i've been told, grimscar killed a beorning member. So bkd was helping out their allies. Kind of what alkath was doing when he helped grimscar out, or what rhoads was doing when he helped grimscar arrest duncan. Though there's probably a 100% probability that duncan has done stuff to both VC and amruin. And about loaning the mels to duncan, from what i understand, DH helped BKD get the mels at the reboot, so it was part theirs. So everything you're all complaining about has a logical, though unfortunate, explaination.
We can all see how thematic it is for bkd, beorn and dh to gangbang together, right? i hope valinor puts and end to what you are doing.
*mental note* Dont help BkD, or Beornings with investigations or healings.
Grimscar, thats exactly what they did to me. They mess with me so I fight back.
Block me for flaming my own guild, please, Rhoads.
Lame BKD helped there, I guess I just lost my right to defend my guild's actions or speak of them as honourable.
hi, i can die like a newb and then beg fimbu to ask his friends not to kill me anymore.
kiss my ass impotence
hi i am a friend of duncans i think he is cool i am almost as objective as somebody in dh
STFU Nilreg
Come not near to me for I be indier than thou.
Everyone should know, if you mess with DH, you end up dead. If you're not messing with us, would you mind starting something? We've been running low on enemies lately. Ah fuck it. I'll just kill you and say you insulted my guild.
he probably didnt post it because he's tired of you bitching and bringing up the many previous attempts every 5 minutes, like everyyone else
I see your point, but you must agree with puting in 45k just to kill you, that is motivation! And motivation is everything! And for you, that could be a way of making gold. And *cred* for you that is fighting back, 99% of the ppl on the mud, would lay down and die...
And for the question why Duncan diden't post, I bet he is so laged he geting the out-put from his client as i post this.
Ps
And i guess you don't wanna give me some of that gold to help me lvl?
Oh I like how BkD and Beornings helped them out here :P
Phu sounds like a broken record :p
That's funny, Phu, but you know - I don't seem to recall messing with DH. I recall them messing with me, and me simply fighting back.
and sure, eventually they will get me.
But in the proceses I've collected 45,000 gold in reimbursements from Duncan alone.
I'd say that more than pays for this one death.
Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5 Vs 1, you had no chance man....though nice escape on the second attempt :)
*pats Grimscar on the back*
Everyone should know, if you mess with DH, you end up dead, if not the first time, and not the second time. 'But quantity has quality in it self'. And you _will_ die. Death, life's only promise.