dead sou = good sou
Iago is a nice dog too, just like a Sou,
iago u can be a nice Sou.
And remember always the jau jau
oh iago might make sense for the first time in his nonsensicle life. evils dont hunt in rp combat because they never RP...DOooooHHH!!
go eat more meat or something:P
i can pretty much guarantee all evils don't hunt in rp combat, but you're a dwarf so we couldn't expect you to understand how the concept of generalizing doesn't work in all cases. go eat more rice or something :P
some people take this game far to personally. Its not that serious, folks....no need to start insulting the IQ level of typist because they dont play the same exact way you do. If your getting angry, perhaps you should take a break.
maybe too much evil in the brain makes you dumb, i dont know because i havent gone to that stage yet. i dont think hunting in RP is wrong since every other evil player does it. so if you do it yourself, expect others to do it on you as well. dont give us that area or warning bullshit...
this is a note to evil players, but i almost forgot if you are too dumb, how are you going to understand this? maye a nine year old like me could teach you some maths to begin with.
whatever...
I can agree with Grimscar, completely actually, this is the war of the ring, our sides should neither ask for quarter nor expect to recieve any.
Erm ... My itsy bitsy question
Gondor extended to Calenardhon in a time, so just wanting to make sure where all you will attack me .. Will you attack in the ex-sister kingdom of Arnor ? In Rohan ? .. Just wanting to make sure ..
I mean while being attacked I wouldnt like to see the borders of Gondor being dynamically upsized ..
Grim: Nice alias, but i think that a trigger is better :P
uff SoU are a good dogs
Trap is wise... afertall, evil people never whine :P
Grimscar: I willl show no such mercy to Daen Hecil, SoU, CoU, or Udungul, however. They have proven themselves as enemies ruthless as orcs.
Thank you ')
fine and dandy. so quiet bitching about DH acting like renegade thugs, SoU hunting and attacking people in mordor, and all the other things you got to complain about(not just grimscar, but all you morals).
64th comment.
I propose a new alias for SoU
Alias grim: do wimpy off,2n,say lugburz,n
Oh and I would never attack someone, even in RP combat, and think I wouldn't get hunted or stabbed out of nowhere. Are you freaking kidding me? Scatha is right. Every time you type kill, you have to be willing to take it to the max. As you can see from TWO logs I've posted up here, I use merciful as often as I can, even when I do not mean to...like on Thalus and Iago.
I had merciful because when I defend Gondor from the average joe, I turn it on, then hunt, and backstab, and hunt off once they have left Gondor.
So I guess that blows your whole moral mercy argument out of the water, Trap. I willl show no such mercy to Daen Hecil, SoU, CoU, or Udungul, however. They have proven themselves as enemies ruthless as orcs.
Grim, who does his best to walk the walk, despite what you pussies think.
you guys are nuts.... chill out its a game.
Gothwin, SoU hunt in rp combat, dont bitch when it happens to you. Especially when you're members are too retarded to run to your guildhall when its less than a round of combat away....
Anselmo slices a chunk off of Vermond's body!
Using the 'kill' command should come with the expectation that you can die as a result.
WOO!!!!
Nice to hear from you Hevron...Sorry i missed your going away bash. :(
Hopefully see you soon though, in one form or another.
*gives Hevron a HUGE bear hug* :))
Technically Hevron people don't mind if the enemy is minding their own businesess or not when in war.It is normal that armies clash during the time of war.But morality calls for some principles and values even when slaying the enemy.Remember the part that Aragorn first salutes the Uruk-Hai's and then kills them all.Of course morality and values are a bit subjective when a war is mentioned but...
actually trap, if you read the books Faramir and his men wiped out a whole troop of easterlings while they where just marching along minding thier own business. why? because they knew they were on thier way to Mordor and its what they where ordered to do. Yes they had sympathy, or they would have killed Sam and Frodo outright as they where ordered to do but they let them go after making sure they where moral and good. trust and instinct played a part.
Just a little factoid insert
Hev.
ps: *smiles at Beyaz*
hahaha fight evil with evil attitude coming from a so called nightmare of evil? join the dakrside you must.too much darkness in you i sense Grims.You'd make a fine bastard evil.Like the rest of us
I agree with you Switch...
What is the point complaining about something that already happened, and you can do nothing about?
And one person bitching about someone doing one thing, saying things should be done 'this' way, and then bitching when the person takes their advice(conciously or sub-conciously) is most certainly 'hypocritical'.
*grumbles some more about people not using the mother-tongue correctly*
okay, so even if he didn't read what you wrote, you complained both times, when he was opposed to it and when he did it.
I agree, that's hipocritical, but then maybe he thought 'they do it to me, why shouldn't I do it to them'?
My point is, everyone on this mud is too damn critical of everyone else. My view of this logsite is to have a laugh, seek tips on how to be better, share in the key moments of the mud (I think this covers all logs posted, from the annoying 'I killed this guy, again, average...' trying to get better to Fimbu's amazing tidbits, to fantastic logs like the big lockup with GV, and I'm not biased on that, it wa a big fight, and fun to see) I'm opposed to people bringing RP into their comments above the odd 'strawhead' comment.
Calling me a moron or backing what your friends did even though it's wrong annoys me more than anything.
What I want to see it fun logs, people to say 'hard luck', 'why didn't you do x' and 'that was funny'.
Sorry if this was long and pointless, but I hope that at least one person agrees with me.
Trap.....
If your opinion means nothing here, why give it?
switch your so much not getting the point, its not inconsistancy of opinion, its inconsistancy of PLAY! MY opinion or anyone elses on here has nothing to do with what actually happens on the mud, its what people do when it comes down to spotting an easy/free kill even though they just said on here that that way of doing things was lame/unfair/non-rp. I am not saying all the sudden that one shouldnt use all their skills, i'm saying thats not why he did it, my opinion didnt change his way of thinking, so dont use what i said as defense to why he did it!
Oh, and as for the whole inside/outside thing with mordor, grimscar, your freaken MORAL start acting like it huh? Moral people wherent going around trying to kill everything that moved and didnt seem angelic. IF ANYTHING you should be looking at the bigger picture, and gothwin and co. should be killing every level 15+ thats of moral standing or greater. Moral people showed mercy, and where ONLY interested in stopping sauron, not killing every shady looking member of the free races. Evil people killed for pleasure, the corsairs where blood thirsty pirates, saurons servants where always arguing with eachother, amongst their clans, but would have NEVER let a moral looking person live inside mordor for more than 5 seconds. If you want to talk about RP you morals need to start thinking about acting moral, not just doing quests and killing all the right things so it says your moral!
Trap
So your saying whatever Grimscar does is wrong?
He complains about people using assassin skills in RP and he's a whining loser?
He uses his assassin skills in RP and he's a bad person?
Please, consistency of opinion helps a lot when making a point. And no need resort to name calling, I'm not a moron thank you.
Switch: In Grimscar's defense he was only doing what Trap was talking about in the other topic, using his skills as an assassin
Your so much a moron switch. I said that in regards to grimscar COMPLAINING about people doing it, so what, now its ok for him to do it all the sudden? If this had been SoU or DH or CoU nailing grimscar he'd be off his rocker screaming about how unfair it was that he'd been hunted!
Outch Gothwin kick Vermond out of the guild, only 2n and he died..
fdl!!! fdl!!!! fdl!!!!
damn that is be a good member and know the path.
nice job Bad Boy :)
This would be pretty lame if it weren't for the fact that these two guilds are at war(that is correct, right)? In the only war I was ever in, there wasn't any RP that wasn't PK.
Heh.
you hunts in Rp war then you show log,what kind of bitch you are?
Woh!
Hevron!!!!
I miss you!!!!!
I think, imo, that the point that was trying to be made is that it seems to be a double standard. Either defend or don't. PK for RP or don't. some try to have it both ways. As far as the whining thing goes, well...unless your pked on a regular basis you tend to have a bit of adrenaline pumping and your not at your best after that sort of thing.
Hev.
They had no clue the ring was in Mordor. Duh, that's the very essence of Gandalf's plan.
All of this comes does to a debate completely unrelated to the log about whether you should attack people who are attacking npcs you should protect.
Gothwin argues for the bigger picture while those who aren't her friends think she should be more spontaneous. There's no real answer.
Sure, I'd attack the attacker, defend the NPC, not let them die, but the bigger picture counts.
So lets get back to the log shall we? before thos topic gets blocked.
I guess they should constantly lift every single rock, did in the ground, etc. because it might be there too!
Gothwin, you would let that 'bottom of the food chain' orc die?
What if he was carrying a hobbit with a certain piece of finger-wear in his Orc Courier Pack? And you didnt realise it...that would be great defense of Mordor...letting the halfling/and the RING get away because the orc wasnt important enough for you to defend....Great RP!
Excellent log
Let me spell it out for you then, Grim.
You...are...out...of...control...C-O-N-T-R-O-L. I keep things under control by keeping it restricted to ONE area, one that people know they will be HUNTED and potentially KILLED in BEFORE they enter it. You go totally berserk by killing anything immoral on two feet anywhere you wish and please.
mordor is a free pk zone, outside mordor isn't. i've paid around 300k in fines to find that one out :P
Can't make up different rules for the team on the other side of the ball. That's called cheating.
Either you're in Mordor to defend it, or to pkill, or because you think that pkilling in RP.
I see...
So what you're saying, is that in your situation, it was RIGHT to do what you do, but in my situation, I'm supposed to warn you that I'm going to kill you before I do. So..you can what, run away and live?
Make some freaking sense here, Gothwin. I think I've made it pretty clear that I mean to slay evil. How much more warning do you need? Yet, you still report every time I attack you.
Whatever
Why do I even bother?
Thank you for pointing out the flaw in my method, Vega. I will be sure to take it to heart next time I drive somebody out of Mordor *cough* :P
Seriously now, I'd find killing a mass-murderer and enemy of Sauron more important then making sure some orc on the bottom of the food chain survived, though I was kinda hoping he'd wimpy out or something. And if you wanna use the same terms outside of Mordor, by all means feel free to do so, but at least have the decency of forewarning the person that in this or that particular area you will be hunting, so they are not fooled into believing it's a standard RP situation.
Note to self: Why do I even bother?
Perhaps so!
I think we (I) should stop talking for Gothwin :p
Fine. I don't give a flying fuck if it was RP or a PK, just so long as she doesn't call it rp and whine if someone does the same to her outside Mordor and call that rp too.
Or to have him lower on hp, whatever. Thought if the whole idea was first of all to defend mordor and try to avoid the courier dying... Well, the approach she used was wrong.
Do you really think she'd go like 'Well met, fair Orc! We shall stand together and defeat this vicious foe!'? She'd lurk in the shadows and wait for the right moment to strike.
I thought it was RP because she was protecting the lands or whatever, if she just wanted to pk him, then it would make sense for her to wait for him to kill the orc so she'd get the courier pack as well.
Pk'ing someone so the threat to the Dark Lands would cease. Makes sense to me.
Most likely, Sarys, that explains it wasn't rp to defend the courier, mordor or what not, but so that she'd have better chances of PK'ing him. And yes, I think she wanted mordor loot mostly, because it would just look retarded if she killed stuff there herself.
You left it behind, dear...whatcha leave behind is for others to pick off...so don't make it sound like I corpselooted.
Most likely she figured if she waited, the target would be lower on hp!
she did, vega!
She looted it from the corpse of the courier actually.
Hmm, Most likely because she figured if she waited, she'd get a pack out of it too!
love, oh baby :p
*LOL* I almost had you, too...
Dear Grimscar,
Why the hell do you think is it so difficult to enter Mordor, be it by going through the Lair or knocking on the gates, TWICE I might say, just to get the REAL warning across to you. Unlike what you seem to think, entering Mordor ITSELF is a warning to you. Btw, are you always this stubborn, or just thick in the head by nature?
Love,
~Gothwin
Dear Gothwin,
I guess I could pull up a log where I find you backstab me in Mordor when I have 80 hp as I finish off an orc courier. I noticed then, that you didn't defend the courier, you let me kill it, then you attacked. After I broke you, you ran and got Vermond and another SoU whom I forget the name, to come hunt me down inside CU tower.
So yeah, I'd say that you try to kill unsuspecting people in this way, and when that doesn't work, bully 'em.
Piss off,
Grimscar
mt :P
Pack contains :
A sandwich
Where can I get one??
You're an idiot Grim, if you think I kill unsuspecting people the way this log shows you are doing.
I'm not trying to bitch, I'm just saying that if Vermond didn't use wimpy he would not have died. Vega, I don't comment much and Vermond is close to being a friend of mine, we have a laugh at least. Me pointing out that Balforth is easy to defend without dying (easy to run from if needed) is not bitching, it's stating a fact.
If you died, Switch would bitch at you and say it was your own fault, Rhoads.
Looked bad, but that stuff happens, wimpy that is, one time I was getting hunted by some evil durmies at Edoras, my wimpy throwed me one room away from the gh, but then it kicked in again and throwed me in the right place, talk about luck there :P
Not really defendind SoU's 'hunting in rp' either, because it's obvious it's just some half-assed excuse to get a free pk or some shit.
Don't try to make it Vermond's fault he didn't know he was gonna get hunted in rp and that his wimpy went off, Switch.
I'm sure you show real mercy to unsuspecting players all the time, Gothwin.
I'm just showing SoU how it feels to be 'hunted in RP', just like they claim to do in Mordor.
In Grimscar's defense he was only doing what Trap was talking about in the other topic, using his skills as an assassin.
Lets face it, to be 2 steps from your GH and die is pretty inexcusable. No offense Vermond but that death was your fault. Your not a bad player, you know what wimpy does... You defend Balforth enough, you should know how to get away by now?
tip: wimpy off when attacking players, always a good idea. you can easily watch your hp and a 4step alias puts you in your gh... If only Edoras was as easy to defend.
Wow, Grimscar...I didn't actually think you'd parade this log showing how low one can sink by taking advantage of an unsuspecting player. Takes some real talent...
I usually don't bother reading plain discussions. It gets boring. Fun, however, is people like Grady, or the cubans making comments.
I don't get it, if you just want to pk them Grimscar, fine, and I suppose I haven't really followed the discussion, but don't you whine when they hunt people in so called rp too, why do you do it if it's wrong for them to?
feel free to call me an idiot and to send me back to re-read all the comment sections over the last month before I open up my mouth and talk :)
fdl
didn't get lost wimpy kept kicking in and if I knew you would hunt in rp combat I wouldn't wait until I was at 50 hp.