Death to all those who oppose us!

Posted by
Kalathen [legacy]
Uploaded
21 December 2003 00:00:00
Type
Player Kill

Daruk forgot he was disguised.

Comments

  • Author
    Jaren [legacy]
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    22 December 2003 20:34:08

    Would have been clever if it hadn't been done before :P

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    Kalathen [legacy]
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    22 December 2003 17:24:39

    Ok, so noone has one comment on the log? I'm not going to post logs for Grimscar to get more publicity, because bad press is better then no press. :)

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    Gormoth [legacy]
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    22 December 2003 16:18:47

    Guys, we are out here to play, not to quality test software and make sure it is bug-free before we deliver it to some customer. Making sure your triggers are fine and not prone to lame-ass attacks is a good thing to do, but I would not think that is what should be expected of every mudder. Hell, tomorrow one might come up with a mechanism to seg-fault the Mud-OS and cause instant reboots every time my enemy gets a nice weapon. I would not call it clever but very unsportsmanlike and deserving a nuke...

    We are here to enjoy the virtual world created by Tolkien, I am sure playing more in character, and acting the way characters in Tolkien's world would act, is much more important than tinkering around with aliases and triggers that make you a power user or whatever..

    My two cents.

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    Lotraz [legacy]
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    22 December 2003 14:42:38

    Actually insertion attacks is illigal by law in most countries (however silly that is).

    We had an example in Denmark a year or so ago. Some company had created a site where the SQL calls used to generate pages where included in the url. So, some dude called something similiar to http://site/scripts/?sql?shutdown()

    He got a pretty nasty fine for that thing. Rather similiar to what Grimscar did.

    That said, yeah... it is pretty OOC bastardly, but seriously, check your stupid macro's!

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    Trempk [legacy]
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    22 December 2003 08:27:42

    You could have just cut the first part of it out, cause it doesn't say much for your awareness of the situation :p

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    Jasumin [legacy]
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    22 December 2003 06:22:57

    pants? I thought you called them trousers.

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    Fimbu [legacy]
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    22 December 2003 06:00:27

    Anatharn logged on today.

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    Caber [legacy]
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    22 December 2003 05:28:15

    I guess what I'm really trying to say is this:

    Kujo, eat my pants.

    -Caber

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    Caber [legacy]
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    22 December 2003 05:09:17

    Oh, good, because I don't take T2T too seriously, I promise! But I do enjoy making extremely bitter posts directed at Grimscar. And other people I happen to be fighting with at any given time. And Tuareg...bless his soul. I miss that guy.

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    Devinius [legacy]
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    22 December 2003 04:54:29

    Kujo you got it right the first time.

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    Durad [legacy]
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    22 December 2003 04:08:58

    Kujo is teh lamerz for making funz of me

  • Author
    Kujo [legacy]
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    22 December 2003 03:51:24

    And the people comment wasn't directed at you, Caber, you're a cool guy who I respect a helluva lot more then anyone else on the mud, it was just a by the by for the sad state of affairs on the mud right now :P.

  • Author
    Kujo [legacy]
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    22 December 2003 03:49:14

    'Being the' down there...... somewhere.

    I'm lazy now i'm out of school *dances*

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    Kujo [legacy]
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    22 December 2003 03:48:09

    Yes Caber, i've read his post, and the post was made post-abuse, so logically it wouldn't be right to nuke him for something that was, as already mentioned, clearly stated in the helpfiles as abusee's fault :P. If he did it again, however, then it would be justified.

    And fuck oath it's clever, it would've been clever if anyone did it, not just Grimscar :).

    Lastly, why are you taking this so personally? Does it matter in the long run, a fucking sword taken from an idiot (who's idle killed before, so much for respect huh?) and a whip that was returned...

    People take this game way too seriously.

  • Author
    Fimbu [legacy]
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    22 December 2003 03:47:31

    Shhh, Caber. Apollo is the god of death.

  • Author
    Caber [legacy]
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    22 December 2003 03:39:44

    That was probably the least helpful comment I've read in a while. Sticking 'grow up, kids' at the end of a comment like that is more than just ironic.

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    Apollo [legacy]
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    22 December 2003 03:35:08

    Respect for who? Why should anyone respect anyone else? You earn respect, you don't just automatically have it, Grow up kids.

    ~Apollo~

  • Author
    Caber [legacy]
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    22 December 2003 02:27:34

    Blergh, it's an OOC attack. Like Osse said in his news, it unwillingly hijacks someone's character for a few moments. Just because they created the loophole doesn't mean it wasn't abusive of him to exploit it. Honestly, you should go and reread Osse's post, because it sums up just about everything. I'm sorry that Naith and Durad aren't the most amazing zMud trigger-makers in the world, but that still doesn't make this OK. It is _completely_ against any sort of mutual respect for other players or any type of sportsmanship. It's like fucking ping-flooding someone. Lag them out, make them quit, whatever. But oh, it's their fault for making a trigger like they read to in the zMud instructions! Bullshit. Quazar got nuked a loooooong time ago just for setting people's triggers off on the comm a few times. He was being a prick and messing with people's clients in a way that just has a negative effect on the mud as a whole. And that's why this was such a shitty thing to do. *shrug* He's not brilliant, he's not clever, and he's not original. He's an ass.

  • Author
    Kujo [legacy]
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    22 December 2003 01:59:40

    Actually, the rules were quite specific in that you are responsible for your own client triggers, so how could it be justified to nuke him for it? I seem to remember a whole heap of people using #trigger {orc leaves %1} %1, and who got nuked through that?

    And i'm not trying to defend Grimscar, because although clever it is lame, but it's Durad and Naith's fault for shoddy coding of their ZMUD triggers.

  • Author
    Sime [legacy]
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    21 December 2003 20:43:10

    Caber, i myself was used as examples when i did stuff like that, i got nuked, and then the news came to arda about the abuse or unbalance. I agree that the last time i was nuked, i knew what i was doing and that it would gain me a nuke. but before that i was Rauko's toy. As i always got in trouble for everything i want the same rules to apply for Grimscar, but i guess the world isent perfect and not ruled by objective people.

  • Author
    Grimscar [legacy]
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    21 December 2003 20:39:27

    Apparently you don't!

  • Author
    Caber [legacy]
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    21 December 2003 20:33:35

    The hell you weren't. I know how you work. :P

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    Fimbu [legacy]
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    21 December 2003 20:31:29

    I don't know why would honor an agreement like that anyway?

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    Grimscar [legacy]
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    21 December 2003 20:31:13

    Actually, I wasn't going to say a word.

  • Author
    Caber [legacy]
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    21 December 2003 20:30:11

    Before Grimscar gets all high and mighty and whines, I suppose I'll babble a bit. Grimscar had used his 'quit' trick to get the whip from Naith, and he returned it 'because he respects Naith' or something on the grounds that we wouldn't use it against them. Of course, he can't use the whip either, so I'm not all that surprised. Anyway, I forgot about said agreement and used the whip to kill Daruk. So to Naith, and to everyone else, you have my apologies. That's all you're getting, though, because none of that would have happened if Grimscar wasn't an abusive fuck. Hey, I agree, it was funny. It was also exceptionally lame. Grimscar walks a fine line where everything he does just happens to be declared a bug or a nukable offense shortly after he does it. One of these times he's finally going to get in trouble, and until then...oh well.