BANG BANG BANG Don't enter Mordor.
Mordor should be fun for all, not only immorals.
I just think morals whining for being killed in Mordor are lame. Its usually bangs, so what.. I have gone in with a friend and killed some people as well as failed.. all they have to say is 'you're so lame for banging people in Mordor' and all I got to say to people like that is: shut your hole because no one makes you enter Mordor and if you can't avoid bangs, don't enter. The worst part is when someone, Groth for example, whines for coming 2 people... you heard me 2 people on 1 lvl 19 warrior in Mordor which is break paradise itself.
And you guys still think removing the lawsys would be good? Give me a break.
Well, shit Maj-Britt.
Though Huvintude is SoU, i think *thinks hard*
It is slightly unbalanced...you can claim RP, and get free kills....if anyone from koda killed someone from dungs, in DA during RP, you guys would cry like bitches.
As i think we seen a few days ago with Huvintude dieing in the castle.
The hell with 'justify', mordor is lawless, that means if you're an evil bitch, you can kill moral bitches in Mordor. And, you can also ask more evil bitches to join your party and kill the moral bitches.
Whew!
You can try to justify getting 4 or 5, or even 6 people to go into CU and kill 1 person, maybe 2...but at the end of the day, you dont want to RP with those in CU or mordor, you want to kill them and take whatever gear they have quested already while inside.
Like Dwain the other day...ok, you werent in on that one, but im sure if you had been logged on you wouldve been there with Aldarin and co.
People go to mordor to quest gear so they can look stylish, and go to CU for only 3 things, imho.
Mooner which is pretty good, but about the same as DWS...flasks which are good healing, and as Aravor said, are easier to do than moral silver flask quest...and exp which is great if you actually manage to get through the lair in one piece, and unseen by any immorals.
I will still go there, but not that regularly, and most likely not without a friend or guildmate.
Aravor, I totally see where your point of view is coming from. I am just trying to justify ours:)
There's the moon shield.. at least noone idles at it like at the DWS.. and CU flasks are easier then the silver flask moral quest
But since my guild doesn't backstab, icey is not very useful.. and fang is really rarely in
The OCPs are nice too, but still, that's just a pack.
As for the rest, I think that if they were moved out of Mordor, they would lose most of their popularity.. cause they're not that strong..
mordor is fun, thats why i go there
Almost every single quest in mordor needs a revamp though
I totally killed somebody.
The privacy in Mordor aside from this or that bang is soothing.
Yeah, what he said
If a moral goes to mordor, he should either be going in for the spear, or the mmails. While he's inside he might want to get a flask in CU, do icey once and probably not get it, check fang and see its gone and he has a circlet, and then leave. Because there's nothing else in there thats worth it or doesnt have something better outside thats easier to get. I dont see why anyone would go through the waste of time if they aren't...especially dwain.
I'm bored of mordor, and haven't been there (aside from short visits to check up things or do one or two quests) in a while. The thing I love about mordor when I'm active in it is that there aren't too many people running around, quests are up and challenging for a solo, sure you have to dodge gangs, but it's quiet and has a meditative dimension. So it's like fun sport. But I also think that objectively, it's not worth the work. Aside from mmail, fangs and iceys, the rest is just stylish crap, you can get better gear, in easier quests, outside mordor. With less risks, no crossing, no constant pk, easier healing etc. I don't want easier quests, I love challenges, but I vote for an upgrade of mordor gear. Like the new special attack for the cleaver, that's fun stuff (altho it got nerfed already, too bad), that really made it a blast for a while. Make the BD gear more durable etc (ah, yes, the flail rules, that's exactly what should be found there).
This is from help fsi:
'Additionally, you can just walk to Mordor, and fight there.
Mordor is one big arena already, what else are you asking for?!'
But, the thing is, immorals have the upper hand in Mordor. Thematically, that's the way it should be, although ainu refer to Mordor as a big arena. I think rules should be same for both sides. A moral can feel safe in Mordor only in a huge party, but even than, a stealthy assassin with a well timed backstab can do the job. I don't want to waste my time on mud 24 hours a day, trying to organize morals to bash the gates or find 5 ppl online to do the lair. I just want to connect and have some quick PvP-RP action.
One of the solutions would be to change Mordor gate guards, so they can't see through the disguise (and perhaps raise the amount of npcs you can kill before they recognise you as an enemy). That would be old-style Mordor. The new style Mordor should be CU and the surrounding areas from orc-path to lair.
Well, Koz, it's quite hard to quest eq fighting other players.. and if you're no assassin, and have no assassin in your party, what's the point of staying there, and risking losing your last (few) hours work?
I completely understand that. The real problem is a flawed system. Or i just don't see a big picture?
Daimen, see, the problem is that whenever any of you guys have a chance of living, you choose to escape mordor and not to fight. I've attacked a 4man party with a party of 3. I've came into mordor knowing at least 5 people were in with a 3-4man party. The result is always the same. The 5 people are all out of mordor if they find one evil near mordor. So, for all you, except the select few (mad props to those people) the only worthwile thing is to get enough people so you die before you reach the exit. Because seeing 'XXX falls down into the well' every time just gets boring too.
Just in case you wonder why i stand there like a fruit i had in fact been idle for about 5 seconds, and returned about half a minute later to find my corpse. Good timing i guess, but i hate most of the people who were in on that bang, so i dont know why im praising you :P Killing me is nothing specialy anyway, you all know that.
Immorals, see, the problem is that more you do gangbangs, less morals will go to Mordor (cause the stuff in there ain't really worth it), meaning less fun for you guys. Unless you're some rp junkies that really want us out of Mordor.
I bet that was for RP :P