Magneto says in Westron: We cant have lamers with stupid 20 lvl titles around! (totally under the impression he was a wizzie)
The only things worth going to mordor for are the packs, iceys, and the armours. Everything else is just a waste of time.
Since when do you care you 7-foot crocodile hunting ram-rooter. :P
Ahh, I see what you're saying, Okay. :)
Ahaha..... Ahahaha.
That's right, the Ainu are cheating for us! All those advantages we have! I'd've thought you would've learnt your lesson last week about false accusations? :)
Ahahahahahaha.
Cathal, the difference is accessability (I don't know what the hell you're talking about with that Evils cannot kill anything but Morals garbage, i'll just assume you've just got off work ;)).
A solution, Re-introduce Morgai or tighten up the security of other places. And yes, I know all about ERs, I do still have one in hibernation afterall :).
Btw, I never said the whole of Free Arda, that's stupid. I said Minas Tirith... I'd be more than happy with just Gondor. Afterall, isn't that where all the action is taking place at this stage of the War of the Ring anyways?
Eznima, as A former Mordor EQ fiend, you'd know 3/4ths of that shit you mentioned is useless.
Kujo how can you speak here when you are member of the Rangers of Ainur Guild. How do you dare to speak to me when your guild has advantages no other guild has ? Yes maybe because half of your members are ex ainur or because half ainur are ex-rimsilval. I dont care but atleast shut up and use what you have been granted.
The endless discussion about Mordor will never end. Fact to the matter is, Meilikki, playability wise, in mordor you get to kill couriers and have courier packs! You get to get weapons such as Prod, CRS, Ice Staff, Silent Slayer, OCC, Claw, and the shitload of CU EQ, and even Fang. So, Meilikki, If you think such high concentration of good equipment is free for you to get at your own will, then you are being ignorant in every way possible. Several years back, there used to be an area called 'The Plantation'. Guess why it was removed?
Basically, it had high concentration of excellent EQ which was free for all to get. As such, Mordor is the same. Its a grid full of treasures. Being evil, we cannot kill in Mordor, and as such, we are deprived from the oppurtonity to exploit the above EQ. Therefore, I will not allow you to come to the land I protect and allow you to kill in there freely. The reason to why Mordor is lawless is to equalaise the effect of it containing such high concentration of good EQ. And as Cathal said, ERs had the job of protecting it, and because they are gone, its our job now to do so!
As a side note, Udungul do not kill in Rohan. We have not done so in over 3-4 monthes, ever since Edoras got guarded. So your whole argument about us being killed in Rohan is not even valid.
Eznima!
Kujo, Meilliki, the difference between Mordor and Minas Tirith is playability. Once upon a time, up to 3 years ago we had something called ER's. ER's basically represented what you're talking about, however seeing as how an evil-guilded player can only kill moral things you have to give them some leighway about where they can and cannot go.
To further explain, I'm Shadowspawn, my duty is to protect Mordor, however, without Sauron freely giving me armour, weapons and gold I must equip myself by killing morals. Last I checked, there were maybe 1-2 morals inside of actual Mordor and they carry neither armour nor weapons.
That being the case, said Shadowspawn player would have to venture outside of Mordor, and by your logic they would be free game to any moral player once they're in moral lands, and that sir is unfair as long as a moral player has immorals outside of Mordor that they can kill for gear or gold.
That also being said, by that very same logic then an immoral player outside of Mordor should be able to freely attack a moral player. I mean, can a moral player not attack an immoral player inside of Mordor as it already is? Lets not make it seem too one-sided.
Thanks. :)
Since when is Mordor Udungul's land?
And Magneto's arguement is the typical bullshit he always comes up with. How is Mordor any different to an evil in Minas Tirith? Loser.
Magneto, the problem with mordor being mordor and the rest of arda being just arda, is simple. you get to defend mordor, and take free chances to kill people, no worry of fines, no worry of anything, and you all can call it RP.
Yet, if morals pk people in arda, then people start whining demanding reimbursement, and all that crap.
So lets look at the balance and theme of this, immorals kill for free in mordor, morals defend and pretty much have to be merciful or the lawsystem will smack them with a fine. Yet somehow both of these actions are refered to as RP?
its just crap, and calling defending mordor RP, is just crap, it always has been crap, its an excuse for you to kill, atleast be honest for god sakes.
And honestly, a kill is a kill is a kill, you killed an amruin, we killed you, I don't care where, a kill is a kill
Oh Magneto, you don't RP so you should not even try to bring 'rp elements' into it. Enter Rohan and die, enter Minas Tirith and die, that's what I meant.
Date: 08. Apr, 2004, 18:36:07 By: Rhoads
Well, if Mordor is like that, so should be any other damn place in Arda.
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Rhoads you listening to what you saying!?!?! ROTFL! MORDOR IS MORDOR. THE DARK LAND. THE LAND OF SAURON. LAWLESS ! Whoever enters is ready to die. If he feels he can take this challange he enters and dies :) Enjoy.
Morals like me.. wtf? :))
Oracle fucking rocks.
And Oracle has been super cool to me OOC, so I have no problems with him either.
***WARNING - BOOK TO FOLLOW***
I have two comments on this log.
1) If I'm going to lead parties in Mordor, I need to train my wilderness *smacks self* As soon as we left the lair, I fired my alias to the well, and as you all saw, I immediately lost Istroath. By the time I got to the well and back to Istroath, he was dead so I ran like hell.
2) Eznima, I personally don't have a problem with this kill. We weren't killing in Mordor, but you guys didn't know that (and don't care or need to care) and it's your job to keep us out of there. I would have rather they attacked me, but it didn't work out that way. If you guys want to RP (or even PP, it's none of my business either way) that you defend Mordor and kill any enemies you find in there, I have no problem at all with that. I even asked Oracle, after this kill, why they attacked and he told me 'Mordor Invaders' to which I responded 'fair enough'. But we can't just stand aside and let anyone attack our guildmates just because it's Mordor. We immediately got a party together and were going to go after Oracle but he happened to have logged off byt the time we got organized, so Ferule got killed instead as retribution for Istroath's death. (Please don't take that as a challenge, because it's not meant as that, I'm just explaining my what my thoughts were at the time.) Enzima, If you ever want to talk IC or OOC about this or any other issue, feel free to send me a tell on the mud so I don't have to bore everyone in the future.
I was attacked by an Udungul yesterday while I was killing in Osgiliath. But it's ok. Because easterlings of the north -obviously- defend Osgiliath! And I honestly can't think of a time that when I was slaughtering off an uruk-hai that an easterling DIDN'T come out of nowhere and attack me. :)))
Well, if Mordor is like that, so should be any other damn place in Arda.
Yes, this was totally an unprovoked attack. He was killing in Mordor, and Udungul should have just stepped aside and not be involved in defending their land. They should have left the guy to kill there all he wants, and maybe ask him to leave nicely! Because Mordor is such a nice place to hangout in!
Yea, ILL KILL YA!!!!! oh, im hibernated :(
You have been warned!
Oracle?
Magneto said in a previous comment...he will report any RP attempt.
Be prepared, if you intend to hang around with him, to recieve the same treatment.
Oh, someone heard my voice :D