That's not whining.
HAHA ZING
Then don`t whine if they draw fast conclusions
I don't need to explain anything to anyone
Winnetou: The childish thing is that everyone ALWAYS draws on fast conclusions about someone just from one log. And it just makes me laugh
What conclusions should I draw on this, Winn? Unless you editted the log, it clearly shows you using (or abusing) a client trigger to take someone out of his idle state, and make him attackable.
I am not saying you dont have any skills or anything like that, I am actually surprised to see you do something like this. The few times I have spoken with you on the MUD left me with the impression that you were a fairly decent guy....but maybe I was drawing conclusions too quickly.
If I am wrong, please explain what happened, and/or why you did what you did. Dont just say that I'm wrong for drawing conclusions and walk away.
From news 33:
It has come to my attention recently that certain clever
people have decided that an edge can be gained in this game
by **intentionally causing other players' client triggers to
go off**, even going so far as to pass commands to the other
players' clients to make them perform certain actions.
Let me make this clear: such actions will not be tolerated.
Not really sure what else can be said. But that's the ainur's problem, not ours.
Use > at the start of all triggers in zMUD, this prevents people from making client triggers to go off.
Or just disable triggers if you're going afk ;)
Ok I've figured why, but dont most C triggers only work if nothing is in front of them?
It does on MUSH, thats why I have a newline prompt or my bs triggers would never work
Ok, so he abuse a cleint trigger? But why the hell did he do it?
And wtf is a roos? Kangaroo? hmm.
I just think it's funny is all, it would also be funny if Sweden flogged England or anyone else and Corpus kept making that comment :P.
Why Kujo? Why laughing? I mean if Corpus said something like 'Sweden raped five roos, but Bulgaria none' I'd understand. But for soccer?
Or the time we 9 manned you because we were bored.
Like that time I 'idle killed' you, Win? :P
Btw, that Corpus comment has made me laugh the 3 times i've seen it so far.
The childish thing is that everyone ALWAYS draws on fast conclusions about someone just from one log. And it just makes me laugh
You're free to think whatever you like
I dont think what occured here is illegal, but the level of respect I had for Winn just dropped a few notches. I can see making a mistake and pkilling someone who is afk, but not yet idle, but to force someone out of that state into an attackable one, knowing that that person is not at the keyboard to do anything about it, is childish. It makes me think he cant stand the challenge of attacking alert and oriented people.
You guys are smokin crack. It's not illegal to unidle somebody with a tell, just like it's not illegal to make an assassin follow a break that you emoted going through.
Both of those cause another person's trigger to fire and their character to do something that benefits you. News 33 dealt with forcing the character to actually perform actions, and passing them commands, which is pretty different.
Nobody passed Spartan any commands. Pretty clever and hilarious, I say. We need more of this. Maybe it would stop people from using clients who aren't smart enough to use them properly, and it would also stop people from getting tons of settings from someone else that they have no idea how they really work.
Sarys, goddamnit.
Srys, dude, it's a cheering me, can't you see the arms in the air! \o\ \o/ /o/
Sweden-Bulgaria 5-0
If this log is fake, Winnetou has far too much spare time on his hands.
no it's not fake
The log is probably a total fake
And i agree with Reeth.
I recall Grimscar being severely repremanded for abusing triggers, and not long after that, the much talked about News 33 was released.
I quote:
'any further instances of this problem
will be dealt with as follows:
The perpetrator will be nuked.'
Why make such statements if, when there is an instance of trigger abuse, nothing is done about it?
I was never a big fan of Spartan, but this is very bad. Abusing triggers shows how 'unskilled' someone is.
Having to basically hijack someones character just to be able to kill them takes no skill at all. As does idlekilling.
I still think we have wandered from the main point of this log, why isnt he nuked....one rule for some and another rule for others?
Thank you, Demandred.
No i did not take place in this log and yes the log is editted and had my name put in it. No i dont really mind, and yes lithil you are an idiot.
if you really did kill him like this, then no, it's not ok :P
I have the right to post logs.. even editted logs. I think after I said that Demandred and Colin are editted names everything is ok.
DUH
Mersover?
You say to your party: let mers get kill
hmm, mers?
If this log is fake and edited with names that should not be there (The ones who got their names used dont agree it). This log is going to be removed unless Demandred and Colin say something.
The names were editted. Especially Colin one.
I thought it was pretty funny that he abused Dol Amroth triggers, something no one thinks about. And hey, it's illegal to have those triggers, but it's def. also illegal to abuse them. So...
Wtf is that, Calen, a little murble rolling down a tube?
Lithil \o\
He's saying that someone has subbed the real killers name with his and Demandreds.
not sure if you were joking colin, but how can you not have a take in a player kill you were a part of?
Right...Well then, case closed.
if there is a subpoena I plead: NOT GUILTY!:P
Wtf. I just asked him what does 'DA' mean???
Haha, right on, Lithil.
You say to your party: let mers get kill
Whee!
Ok.. Check my comment a few down.. The point of that is real.. What the hell?
Since Winnetou hasn't yet (and I don't know the purpose of this log) I can honestly say, that Demandred nor I had any take in this pkilling. Not sure how much of this log was 'written and not logged', but the names sure doesn't belong. Thanks for the nice comment though, Sarys ;)
So you can relax again Wormbaneii :)
Well I'm sure there's a reason that there is code to prevent you from being attacked after a certain amount of idle time. So setting off a char's triggers to make him/her unidle would be 'stealing' that char under the meaning of news 33 IMO.
I have to say that this is really weak, and I didn't expect it from the chars in this log.
But...I'm a pussy and I suck blah blah blah etc etc etc.....
Date: 13. Jun, 2004, 5:36:07 By: Demandred
Whats with all the idle kills lately. Dont people got skill anymore?
Reeth's comment made sense... am I feeling well?
That was pretty dumb. Colin's presence makes up for a lot though.
Ouch. They took Reething to a whole new level.
At least if you are gonna cheat like that dont put it in your logs, dummy.
Wth? :p
Reading news 33 I see it talks about 'stealing other char' as the nukeable offense, but it also says about 'abusing other client triggers to gain some advantatge'... I don't know.
Me too
i was under the impression that this was a nukeable offense
Ohh, clever!! (abusing client triggers uh?? xD)
We got a new top poster!