A blood debt paid.
miroth, im koda, you say you killed a lot of guildmates, but thats not why i dont like you. i dont like you for just the hell of it. :P
uhm, huh. Pallasch you were not even born when i did that, and i was punished accordingly for the MP i did. Only thing i have botted was forging in the beginning when it was legal, i stopped when it became illegal. I pay people to forge for me now as its more profitable to pay 1-2k for a sword then to sit there 30mins and do it myself.
That's funny, you've MP'ed/botted at the same time! Hop off that highhorse, CAN.
We are going to see alot of people making bots to kill/do stuff now, all you have to do is watch the mud in the corner of your eye while doing something else...There was a reason for it being illegal to have triggers forge for you, just as much as its illegal to have triggers walk hunt npcs for you automaticly. Forging something is just as bad as botting npcs, with all the improvements i've heard people have in there zmud's its probably possible to make it do everything for you. There is alot of work behind checking on people 24/7 if they are really at the keyboard or not. That is probably one of the reasons they banned trigger forging, because it was to much work checking in on all the people that forged.
thats my 5 cent on the whole idea.
Well, I mean I can be at the keyboard with another window open over top of my mud client. And I could be away from the client window for a while depending on what else I'm doing. So whats the deal with that? I can forge a sword and check on it very rarely. But if ive got a timer set and am entering a command say every 11 seconds, and somebody comes to question me about it, how long do i have before they throw me in jail? Cause in the past it hasnt been very long, less than a minute.
Trempk:
'Using that logic, it should be legal to use tick timers as long as you're at the keyboard too. Right?'
Correct. The problem everyone seems to face, of course, is that the moment you're not at the keyboard, you're headed for trouble.
D
rougan, you're koda. i've killed so many koda, that's probably why you don't like me. however i once thought you were one of the honorable ones left :P but then you got a log page account and proved that you're no better than the rest of us flamers.
I hate to have to do this, but well, whatever
http://artpad.art.com/?if5qnpjyqjc
I guess you can group me in the puppy category too.
Because he didn't find a joke funny?
Seems Miroth is Pallash's little puppy ;-)
I got the 'joke', and I didn't even crack a smile.
Thats because you don't get the joke. :P
No, it really wasn't.
That... wasn't even remotely funny.
FDL!
Damn Rougan, you're funny! :P
I don't understand how someone might not like Miroth. Please explain.
They just dont like you, btw, miroth. I never stopped using triggers while forging even after they told us all it was illegal so HAH.
Using that logic, it should be legal to use tick timers as long as you're at the keyboard too. Right? Its a lesser offense anyway
oh please draugluin, you gave me a warning for it years ago when i was at the keyboard. you're a wishy washy moron.
Dorf it was rather easy to prove people botted, i think i notified valinor about someone using triggers, resulting in a warning. Im with Caber on something official.
Boffo, I've got no problem admitting I'm a n00b. I should have A. Tried cellar, B. Tried maiden/other breaks in edo area. I knew it was Barberi from the start and exactly what he was about. Instead, I went along with the assumption that he would magically be like, 'ok, you're not an enemy anymore' and not try any huntbreaks. Lol, and at first I thought it was someone just messing with me...until the 'You have died.' part came along...
No they are not illegal. It is illegal to play while you are not at the keyboard, while you are 'zombied'. Is that right, Draugluin? I mean, you could stay at the keyboard AND have triggers. That's just getting rid of the manual work.
I do remember some stuff about Valinor saying they were illegal. Anyway, it's good that Valinor still shows some sense. It hadn't happened for years except for some minor implementations.
How would you be able to prove that someone was botting, anyway? It's not like you can set up spy cams in peoples' homes. If you say that triggers are legal when it comes to forging, that's a perfect botting scenario - but impossible to prove.
Yeah forge triggers are illegal, either your at the keyboard or not. not sure if it was a news or a gossip but everyone that was around back then knows its been illegal.
Dakar's description has driven me insane.
What I mean is, 'I'm a human being with a memory. There was a post telling us explicitly that triggering the forges is illegal. Unless you think we should just forget about news posts as soon as they scroll off the list, I'm going to remember what I've been told until I'm told otherwise. Please tell me otherwise.'
Don't see the news post you are referring to, the only news post regarding triggers (it's locked, number 5 or so) merely reminds users to pay attention to 'help triggers', which I quoted above.
Okay then. Could you put out a news post cancelling out the old one? :P
Incorrect.
From 'help triggers':
At no time may they be used to simulate hunt, to assist with 'botting'
(help botting), to spam, to harass, used to stay online illegally, or
abused to take control of another player.
From 'help botting':
If you use many scripts/triggers/ aliases or whatever else to control your character, while you are not at the keyboard, you are botting.
Thus:
Using triggers (those provided by T2T code, or client triggers) to expidite your forging process is not illegal unless you do it while not at the keyboard, at which point you are botting.
Many of you use triggers to help you forge while you sit there and talk to friends or whatever, and that's just fine.
If you suspect someone of botting, please use 'law report'.
Thanks,
D
For anyone who remembers it, there was a news post a year or two after MT came out and forging was popular. Or maybe it was a gossip...anyway, the point of it was: Triggering the forge is highly illegal.
So...yes. Yes it is illegal.
jabba, yes, it is illegal to use forging triggers. i've been warned for it. go ask draugluin.
Fucking Ainur, why couldn't they put Combe closer to MT?!
Dakar... That was pretty n00bish. When Trenchant asked me, esentially: If I think he sucks so hard, why is it he can kill me? I said, it's because I'm a noob. I'm telling you this. I'm a noob, and that performance was especially noobly ...and no, I didn't hire Barberi to do that. :1
Hunthor scowled at you ALL the way from Minas Tirith to the River Adorn. That's impressive. I hereby dub him 'Farscowl.'
Oh, and I told you during the kill :)
It is not illegal to use forging-triggers.
Actually I don't forge. But if I were to forge, I would use those triggers.
(= HP:230 EP:182 =) Dakar pulls the tongs from the furnace.
The fire in the furnace is beginning to get low. If you intend to
continue forging anything, it must be tended to immediately.
pump bellows
Hunthor places his hand over yours.
Hmm, I think somebody bots their forging!